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Sorry @dtr20 . I shouldn't have taken over your thread. I got more PO'ed as I was thinking about my finish and I typed without thinking.
My apologies 😞
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11 hours ago, Ceptorman said:
I believe RTR is a few hours south of Indy, much closer than Hope.
Evansville. Couple hour drive. I don't think they'd let me in their headquarters. Would you bail me out @Ceptorman? 😁 Yeah, people used to ask me where they were located when they'd hear them for the first time. I'd proudly say Indiana and Arkansas in the good ole USA🇺🇸
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7 hours ago, teaman said:
You are correct W&T. The right speaker rear sticker is unattached at the bottom.
Mine are the same. I wiped them down when I got them. A couple days later they had popped up again. I need to glue them down. Must be a problem with the label. Guess I'm not the only one. They sound so good, just not put together well. Disappointed.
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4 hours ago, teaman said:
I saw a pair of Forte III's for sale on Ebay earlier for $2400 shipped as open box with a small ding. I thought the price sounded good for a pair.
Not sure if that helps.
Wow. I was just looking at the front corner. I looked at the other pictures. . Look at the side pictures. It looks like there are pock marks all along one side. The boxes look fine. That was packed like that too. Where's the QC? Mine was packed with the obvious mark on front and now these? I guess I'm not the only one. These were about 10 behind mine looking at the serial number. And I've heard of another one where the poly was peeling off.
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2 minutes ago, Ceptorman said:
OK. I like the style of college football better than the pros. When the QB is a threat to run, it open the game up. It just when those running QBs try that at the pro level, it can hurt. The DBs in the pros are much quicker.
I agree. The passion is so much better also. Seeing a kid without as much talent as others , playing his heart out in the game is great to me.
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4 hours ago, Jirachi said:
I've looked at the pic at least 10 times and I still don't see any actual dent
Another picture. Picture doesn't show the depth under the varnish
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6 hours ago, avguytx said:
For the money they want for them, they'd better be pristine when they come out of the boxes. Any manufacturer for that matter.
Agreed, I've tried to get a reply from them, no reply.
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2 hours ago, teaman said:
I saw a pair of Forte III's for sale on Ebay earlier for $2400 shipped as open box with a small ding. I thought the price sounded good for a pair.
Not sure if that helps.
Yikes, that was packaged like that? Mine the mark was varnished over to be smooth.
I'm saying the varnish or poly is very soft. The smallest touch will appear like that. That's another issue with the cherry.
6 hours ago, Ceptorman said:I would send him another email with the pic and a request to talk to whomever his superiors might be that can at least respond to your email. He has to realize this isn't right. Might try calling customer service also. Did you buy these from Klipsch directly?
I agree. I believe they will make it good.
I could possibly live with a dent like that if it was on the back, but not in front.
I bought a new center channel speaker and the Klipsch logo came off the front. It wasn't a big deal and I didn't pursue it with Klipsch. Just a .30 cent piece of plastic.
If Kerry, the product manager for the Fortes doesn't want to act on it, I'm sure I will get nowhere. I would think he would have to sign off on a return authorization and exchange. After the experience with this, I don't know if I would want another set in cherry finish. After you get no reply to pictures, I assume he isn't going to do anything.
Very disappointed in the customer service. Thrilled with the sound, the quality of the cabinets is not up to the standards of other new speakers I've bought that were Klipsch.
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@Ceptorman. I contacted the product manager. This was his last paragraph:
"I don’t expect this to change your opinion about the finish, but I wanted you to at least understand where we were coming from. Wood choices and finish options can be a very frustrating task. The color and grain pattern of the wood veneer changes from shipment-to-shipment…And unfortunately, Klipsch can’t control that. The domestic species of the cherry and walnut veneers that we use are actually pretty stable compared to the exotic wood veneers we use in some of the special edition models Klipsch has offered recently. The only thing you can be sure of about that is the next pair of speakers in line will look completely different in color and grain pattern from the first."
After describing the finish and his reply, I sent him that picture. He never got back with me. It's disappointing, particularly considering how many new Klipsch products I've bought. From the serial number, mine were number 41 and 42 of the new cherry. I assume they've worked the kinks out of making the cherry finish now.
It's the first thing people notice when they see them. Like I've said, I think they sound great. The cabinetry is not what I expect from Klipsch. The softness of the varnish is really strange also.
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@jimjimbo they were drop shipped to me. Boxes were perfect. Never had trouble with Klipsch before. Didn't check.
The real disappointment was the product manager for Forte's blew me off. Always been impressed with the quality of Klipsch cabinet work and quality control. Not so much now.
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8 hours ago, babadono said:
But if there is a flaw or they are damaged @RTR and you're not happy and you're not getting any help, bark louder. Go up the chain. Brand new speakers should be flawless.
I started up the chain as far as I could go. We exchanged emails.
i am more upset about the "softness" of the varnish than anything else. If you look at the picture of the dent on the front, you see a light spot on the right of the mark. That's where I ran my finger over the mark to see if I could feel an indentation. My fingernail caught the varnish and made that mark. I've heard thru the grapevine there was another complaint from someone who said their finish on the cherry was "peeling" The dent looks worse in person when you can see depth of the mark.
Once I move, I'll decide if I want to attempt to refinish these. I'm not a particular person, but the softness of this varnish or poly is driving me nuts. Seriously, I'm almost afraid to wipe the dust off these. I would be complaining if I bought furniture or kitchen cabinets with this finish. As I said, I bought a RC-64II at the same time and place my 65" tv on top and nary a mark.
The finish has gotten darker already in the time I've had them. Maybe a shade. All my furniture is dark Cherry. My Heresy's matched perfectly.
I do love the way these speakers sound.
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Yeah, I'm not happy with the finish on these. Plus the "dent" in a very noticeable place that was varnished over smooth. Plus the varnish is a very soft varnish that scratches if you look at it wrong. I bought a RC-64II at the same time in cherry. I have my tv on it. Have moved the tv several times on top of the center with no marks left behind.
Talked to a guy at Klipsch about how I was unhappy about the finish. He didn't seem to care.
Very happy with the sound though....
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6 minutes ago, geoff. said:
The sun must shine bright in Hope all year long to fade a new pair of cherry Forte iii's like that...
Here they are beside my cherry Heresy III's
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Those Oak clear Forte II's are darker than the cherry on my Forte III's.
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3 minutes ago, whatever55 said:
How would the Forte III's compare to RF-7's ?
When I was talking to Cory before I bought, he said the Forte's sounded better. I think they are the same price too. That being said, I've never heard RF-7's. I trust Cory and I thought I read in the Forte or pilgrimage topics that there were several in agreement....depends on your ears....
Let the debate begin....
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3 hours ago, JamesD1957 said:
I'll be 60 in couple of months and have seen quite a few changes in speaker technology and design in my years.
To me, the ones I'm most interested in are the Cornwalls and the Fortes. But, price is a consideration, so here I sit happily listening to my RP 280'fs. This thread caught my attention because the OP lives in Houston, and I live in a suburb of Houston. Stores just don't exist where someone can go and listen to this level of speaker. Sad state of affairs.
I just turned 60. I agree with you that there is no where to audition speakers like there was when I was a lot younger. Now I have the money to spend after the kids are out on their own, there was no where to listen. I went thru a lot of speakers trying to find the ones I liked
I had RP-280F's also. Heresy's too. Then I found @MetropolisLakeOutfitters was about 120 miles from me and had some speakers for me to listen to. I heard the Fortes and bought them from Cory. They sound great and I bought a RC-64II from Cory also. I hope you find the additional money and get them. Sound great with music or part of a home theater. With a sub and the Forte's set to high on your AVR, movies sound fantastic with bass coming from everywhere.
contact Cory and ask him about them.
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1 hour ago, ndavis1971 said:
I actually wasn't able to audition them. I'm buying from Cory Harrison of Metropolis Lake Outfitters who someone recommended in the forums. He's heard them all and patiently answered all my questions.
I got my Forte's from Cory also. Good choice on speakers and Cory.
I really like mine. Let us know what you think.
congrats!!!
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Thinking of the people in the path of this. Best wishes to everyone in the path of this.
I've been watching the path of this with a lot of interest. I am to close on a place about a mile from the beach in Gulf Shores this week.
My parents retired to Biloxi. I saw the destruction after Katrina went thru. It's a horrible thing. Biloxi didn't get a lot of the headlines since New Orleans got hit too. I always think of the people that are in the surrounding areas that don't get the publicity of the big name cities.
Again, best wishes and prayers to everyone in the path...
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I never considered myself to be a fan of "comic book" movies, but decided to get this when I picked up a Sony 4K bluray player. This is awesome. Watched it a couple times already. Bought the 1st one too. I like the 2nd one better. The interaction between the characters and the story is really good. Who would have thought I'd like a movie with a talking raccoon and baby tree? The music from the lead character mom (awesome mix pt 2) was great. Loved the beginning scene from the movie.
This is is the first movie I really pushed with the Forte III's and RC-64II. Since the Fortes have a lot of bass to them, I set the AVR settings for left and right speakers to large. Combined with my sub it sounded great. It had the whole room vibrating. Had some friends over during my second viewing and they were impressed by the sound.
i saw someone saying the Fortes wouldn't make a good Home Theater speaker. They were way wrong.
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Welcome to the forum. I see it's your first post.
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I had some RP-280's that got a few dents. It's cosmetic. There was no difference in the sound. I'm like you, always kept the grills on and not sure how they got there. Klipsch does sell replacements, I think for mine it was $52? But there was no difference in the sound I detected, so I never replaced them. Wish I still had the pictures, it looked worse than yours.
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Lost too many players on defense so far this year.
Forte III
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C/net review.
https://www.cnet.com/news/big-for-a-reason-klipsch-forte-iii-speakers/