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22 minutes ago, Micklipsch said:
Curious which model of Denon you're using? Mine's a 1910 rated at 90wpc, and it's absolute crap for bass-demanding music like EDM or rap. Sorta gets the job done for rock and stuff, but all in all it's just not up to the task and doing no justice to these CF4s.
I will have to check. I will let you know.
*some time later*
It's an AVR-3802. @Micklipsch
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1 minute ago, Maximus89 said:
Its strange because I had 320 wpc bridged via a McIntosh amp and my CF3s were beefy and I had all the bass I could want. I then unbridged and went back to 100wpc but trying to integrate my RSW15 sub. Enjoyed that for a while but now I went back to 320wpc without the sub and I feel like my bass is really weak and the drivers are barely waking up at moderate levels. Strangest thing. Ive been so bugged about it for the past few days. Is it all perception? I got used to a subwoofer that the normal full range of the cf3 just isn't enough or is it some setting i must have changed. I dont know and still trying to figure it out, but they sound beautiful in the midrange with my new dac and even the top end is, but the bass is really weak. Plugged my power amp straight to wall from my non current limiting power conditioner and no difference.
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It actually could be perception. It's as if you had been using a wild EQ setting, and then go back to flat.
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10 minutes ago, Micklipsch said:
Separate, or dedicated amp I'm assuming?
It's a 5.1 Surround receiver / amp, set to "No Subwoofer" and only 2 channel. The sound is pushed to it via fiber optic, and it is plenty.
Hmmm. I wonder if I can use the extra channels to bi-amp. I will have to check for this.
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1 minute ago, Micklipsch said:
How does that Yamaha sound with your CF3s? Plenty of headroom? Rumble the room when you want them to without the bass crapping out?
I know watts from AVRs are far from equal to watts from a separate, but just wondering what your Yamaha's watts do for your CFs. I've read that these speakers really shine when doused with power.I use a 100w Denon for my CF3's, and there is all the volume and bass you could ask for without getting any clipping or missing sound. They thump you in the chest.
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1 hour ago, garyclayton said:
That's good to know, this amp us RMS 120 @8 and 130@4 so I should be safe!
thanks for your help Oicu812
Nice amp. Wanna sell it? (j/k)
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4 minutes ago, garyclayton said:
Thanks for the clipping visualization Oicu812, so basically underpowered amps will destroy your speakers if you're asking too much of them. Any recommendations on an amp for the RF7-lll that would be just to power them for CD's, records, and streamed music? Also if I decided to go surround as well would you recommend a 2 amp system or is there an AVR that would do a good job for both applications.
Thanks, Gary
I run 7 Klipsch Pro speakers on an Onkyo 7.1 receiver. It's supposedly rated at 120W per channel, but the RMS rating is probably closer to 85 or 90. Halfway up the volume is painful and will run you out of my office, long before any clipping occurs. *<;o)
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10 minutes ago, garyclayton said:
Thanks for your advice, unfortunately I don't have anyone that I can go to trial various amps.
With underpowering as long as I'm not blasting the speakers would I be safe to assume that I shouldn't have to worry about clipping?
With clipping, visualize it via a sine wave. Normally it's a smooth curve up and over the top. Now if you are trying to push too much power through an amp that cannot handle it, the top of the "mountain" curve ends up getting chopped off flat. This acts like DC current, always on during that flat part.
Your drivers are run on AC, so the voltage goes from high to low 60 times a second. So your drivers move in and out as per the voltage. During the clip, it's powering the driver with a constant on. Drivers don't like that, heat up, and burn out. (I know I took a lot of shortcuts with this explanation, but they are simply concepts...)
My post count was 667 on this one. The neighbor of the beast. *<;o)
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8 minutes ago, Ceptorman said:
My Klipsch list is short
Palladium P38f P27c P17b P312s
That's not short one inch. Winnah!
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KSB 1.1's.
One SW8 II.
One pair of KSF 8.5's.
Two 1979 Super Heresy!A pair of Epic CF3's V1.0.
A sequential pair of R-14M's.
A super nice pair of KP-3002's.
A matched serial pair of KP-101's.
2 sequentially numbered pairs of KG4's.
A pair of KPT-100 taken from a theater in Gainesville.
A pair of KP-1000's, modified into 2-way garage speakers.
A perfect pair of 1977 ‘Heresy E’ export model "H-WO", laser emblems.I've not yet sold any Klipsches, much to the chagrin and consternation of the Mrs.
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On 1/24/2021 at 12:55 PM, DizRotus said:
Thank you OP for editing your initial post to no longer suggest that Chuck, @Tarheel, perform an unnatural act. Sticking to your price is your right; insulting your potential buyers is not.
They look spectacular. GLWS
I bet he's done with this particular forum after his "encounter"...
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8 hours ago, RandyH000 said:
ditto for that answer , and let me add , ASAP
If the system he built does what he wants, why change things?
Granted, if capacitors have aged over time and the sound with them, then you might not notice that anything wonky has occurred. It's always fun to play with new gear, however, and as long as you don't sell off the original parts of the system, you can always put things back to what you liked.
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On 1/20/2021 at 7:37 AM, Islander said:
That’s a pretty big room, and it will take big speakers to jiggle all that air. How high is your ceiling? That matters too. Your room encloses many cubic feet of air. Trying to make small speakers do the job is asking too much from them. As other members suggested, a pair of bigger speakers like La Scalas, Klipschorns, or Cornwalls, are what you need. If you get subwoofers, get at least 12” models, and 15” models would not be too much.
If you have the budget for a system like that, you could have some really big/realistic sound, sound that’s hard to produce in a smaller room. Good luck!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This. Exactly this. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ @Steve Brunson
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21 minutes ago, bsac335 said:
I have a pair of CW 2's that were damaged in a fire. I bought them from a guy who had them resized into smaller cabs. He also replaced the woofers with K43s instead of k33s.
So, that's what I'm dealing with.
I'd like rebuild the CW2 into factory specs since I can't find empty CW2 cabs.
Also, I'd like to inquire if Klipsch can re-issue the inspection stickers since they were actually transferred to the new cabs but there is no way to transfer them to the new cabs if I build them.
Yes, it's a tall order but I'd like to try.
The woofer issue (43s instead of 33s) seems to prohibit bass response. But, who knows since the entire geometry of the inner dimensions of these cabs are so off plus the porting it's anyone's guess.
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I think you might find that the bass response was curtailed more by the smaller cabs than the woofer change.
I doubt the company will give you new inspection stickers for speakers that were remade into cabinets that did not match the original specs, and one of the three drivers being replaced. You should be able to lift the paper labels off the "new" cabs successfully. Google something like label removal chemicals or sprays.
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20 hours ago, Mystery said:
Right at $200 but I already have KG4.5 as home theater fronts so won't be an upgrade.
In that case, I would pass myself unless I needed a set for another room. Keep your eyes out for a reasonable pair of KG 5.5, that might be worthwhile for you.
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19 hours ago, Mystery said:
Eyeing this pair but no info...
I should say something helpful...
They look decent, some small dings on the risers. If they are $200 or less, they are a good deal IMHO.
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29 minutes ago, billybob said:
No, these are KG-4...
Nope. They are KG⁴...
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@Yukon888. Welcome to the forum. It would be good if we could see the serial numbers, that would help a lot.
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10 hours ago, happyears88 said:
Hello,
I am a klutz and accidentally stabbed a hole in the spider of the woofer on my Klipsch Forte I with a screwdriver. It is on the edge where there won't be any movement so I'm hoping this doesn't have any impact, but I don't know much about speakers so wanted to check. Does the spider need to be airtight, or is it fine for there to be a hole? Do you think I should seal it up, maybe with epoxy? Thanks!!
Wecome to the Forum. The repair you suggested will most likely be okay. If not, it needed replaced anyway...*<;o)
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21 hours ago, wuzzzer said:
He certainly is. And, thankfully, his progeny @Chief bonehead carries on the legacy.
I hope that there is another prodigy that @Chief bonehead can foster and teach, to bring up the next generation. PWK started something that will hopefully become a grand tradition.
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Here is a video where a guitarist plays a copy of the very first electric guitar built by the genius Les Paul: (LOTS of cool history!)
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17 hours ago, Buddy Shagmore said:
Sometimes an invention is perfect right from the get go. The Klipschorn, the Fender Stratocaster, the Victor mouse trap all come to mind. All from someone's genius mind. Very gifted individuals indeed.
That's funny. Leo Fender was friends with Les Paul, and had access to the research Les was performing in his creation of the world's first electric guitar. Gibson was waffling and not sure that Les Paul's creation would sell, so Fender came out with the first commercial guitar.
Even though Fender was having a field day selling these things, Gibson still balked about putting their name on these guitars, so Les said "Put my name on it".
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On 1/4/2021 at 5:17 AM, kuisis said:
I will have to figure out how to post pics again. Been a while. Those look original, but the tops look like the back have bee cut from a point to be flat vs a triangle. You can say anything is overpriced, but if someone is willing to pay the price then it isn't, I would't pay 9k for them for sure, but who's to say someone wouldn't pay it?
The easiest way to do pictures is in my signature at the bottom of this post. If you have any questions, please let me know.
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12 hours ago, RandyH000 said:
I think you must be the luckiest person , I mean , what are the odds - I remember somebody once on the forum buying a pair of Heresy for 25$ -
Those beat my deal on Epic CF3’s for $100. I’m jealous (but not too much)...-
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6 hours ago, RandyH000 said:
for the longer run , darker grilles are less of a headache to clean ---or to stain by accident -
Have you been drinking red wine next to your speakers again, Randy?
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Klipsch Epic Owners Group
in 2-Channel Home Audio
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I picked it up at a Salvation Army thrift store for $40. As you said, good reviews. I always pick up amps that are proper brand names, reasonably priced and have pre-outs on all channels. I also look for good quality 5 way posts on all channels to go with the good reviews. *<;o). Generally, these features are not found on lower quality amps, normally they are seen on the higher end models.
Sometimes I get lucky, occasionally not. I have found that I can achieve incredible sound without spending incredible sums. It simply takes persistence and patience.