SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 10, 2002 Share Posted February 10, 2002 ..I've been toying with the idea of high efficiency horn speakers to fill a void. My past speakers; B&W 802 SIII's, Magnepan 1.6QR's and now current PSB Stratus Goldi's sound(ed) somewhat balanced in response but are a bit reticent and didn't provide that JUMP factor needed to even attempt real life sound levels. Perhaps it was their inefficiency, God only knows it wasn't the size/quality of power I provided them, but I find myself drawn to this forum for relief. The room they will be used in is adequately large(approx 35X16) and, surprisingly, acoustically dead. As a newbie it is a daunting task to learn "Klipschspeak" given the myriad of drivers/crossovers/cabinet materials/configurations/tweaks/prices available. I seem to be have whittled my choices down to either Heresy's(I & II), Forte or Cornwall's as a replacement, however, I am asking anyone with the many years of knowledge with these products to offer a weary traveller some friendly advice...any takers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacKlipsch Posted February 10, 2002 Share Posted February 10, 2002 What will you be feeding them with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 10, 2002 Author Share Posted February 10, 2002 Currently the playback chain consists of Dynaco CDV-PRO, Musical Design SP-2B, McCormack DNA-1 Deluxe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckears Posted February 10, 2002 Share Posted February 10, 2002 Soundjunkie, My Fortes LOVE my McCormack DNA-1, and you are right, there is PLENTY of power there... I have a fairly low-level cd-player and a passive preamp (also McCormack), and I cannot turn my volume knob past 10:00 without potentially damaging my hearing and wall paint. On the other hand, your room sounds HUGE, and I would guess that Cornwalls (even though I haven't heard them in recent memory) would fill the room somewhat more than Fortes. As for the Heresy, while being a terrific-sounding speaker, you might not get the all the bass you need out of them. Hope this helps... (BTW, what kind of interconnects do you use?... I am running Nordost Solar Winds, and my McCormack components seem to get along with them very well) ------------------ Klipsch Fortes, Oiled Oak McCormack DNA-1 Power Amp McCormack TLC Pre-Amp Sony 5-disc changer NHT SA3 Subwoofer Amp Hsu TN1220 Subwoofer Old Akai cassette Deck Akai AAR22 used as tuner Nordost Solar Wind interconnects Kimber 4TC Speaker Cable (Future upgrades to include): Klipsch Academy or KLF-C7 Center Channel Klipsch RS-3 Surrounds Outlaw 1050 AV Receiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted February 10, 2002 Share Posted February 10, 2002 Try Cornwalls first and Forte/Chorus second. Heresies will have to have a subwoofer to be satisfactory. I use 2 big subs with my La Scalas, even. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 10, 2002 Author Share Posted February 10, 2002 Sorry for not completely detailing the system before... I'm running Audiotruth LapisX3, EmeraldX3 and van der Hul Magnum Hybrid(double runs) and YEAH chuckears I saw the listing of your components earlier and was both exited and reassured to see some of the same stuff I was intending to use being utilized. My thought was the Heresys would be problematic as I picked up a really nice used ebaY pair last year for my brother-in-law who ran his with an older 40W Kenwood integrated and reported the same problem...so I picked him up a nice used Adcom GFA555II to try and coax some more bass outta them. I'm sorry to report the jerk has got it sitting in a corner, unused, for 8 months now so I don't know how they would sound pushed. I was thinking to place two of them per side,tweeter to tweeter, in sort of a D'Appolito config, or use the mid/tweeter/crossover elements in a larger homebrew enclosure with the woofer/radiator from the Forte, but then again I gather the Heresy II drivers set up like that IS a Forte? The room IS large and to compound that the shape is irregular with larger french-door type openings,a large stone fireplace and Andersen low-e windows(they don't rattle or reflect sound like the old double hungs). From the postings some here REALLY like the HeresyII's and Forte originals for the sound quality and I guess one of my newbie questions is to ask if it is the specific mid/tweeter combo responsible and which crossover does the best job, the ALK? I have my eye on some larger speaker like Cornwalls also, but a local purchase for me would be the only option given the shipping cost involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted February 11, 2002 Share Posted February 11, 2002 Sound - I'd second/third the suggestion for Cornwalls. They will give you all you are looking for, short of going with K-Horns. In second place would be Chorus - they have a very large, live sound to them as well. Stronger than the Heresy in bass, but not as strong as Forte's. Then, I'd go for Forte's. Doug ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 11, 2002 Author Share Posted February 11, 2002 Chuckears...you like the original Fortes? John and Doug, you like the original Cornwalls as well? Is it because they have the metal horns or the balance between the drivers is best? Texts> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 11, 2002 Author Share Posted February 11, 2002 THIS IS THE TYPE OF THREAD THAT SCARES THE CRAP OUT OF ME! " TARGET=_blank>http://216.37.9.58/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001790.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake2 Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 Sound - Sorry if I was unclear...I don't have any preference of Cornwall I over II. I just think the Cornwall, as a speaker, would be my first choice, followed by the Chorus and Forte. I wouldn't know a B2 crossover from a B2 bomber!!! Doug ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chuckears Posted February 12, 2002 Share Posted February 12, 2002 Why do I like the original Fortes? I have not had access to enough of the Klipsch line, especially the newer models, to give an A/B opinion... I just know they sound flipping great, and I have read a comments from a few people who prefer the classics over the re-designs (Forte over Forte II, Chorus over Chorus II, etc.). Sorry if I am vague or uncertain about the reason, I just know the old school Klipsch designers tended to get things right the first time, i.e. the classic Klipschorn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BobG Posted February 13, 2002 Share Posted February 13, 2002 RF-7's sound great with McCormack mono blocks. Based on the speakers you've owned in the past, it's my opinion that the RF-7 will please you more than any of the older Klipsch models. You can probably get a dealer to loan you a pair to try at home. Not the case with the models no longer in production or the HII which is hard to find on display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 13, 2002 Author Share Posted February 13, 2002 I'll give 'em a look see. Thanks to all for trying to help out the newbies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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