htown_ag Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 I am building a small theater room (12 x 18). I want the deep bass sound. Do I need the Reference series or will the Synergy be okay? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 for deep bass it will just depend on the subwoofer you get. with my KSW-12 on my Synergy 6, i had more than enough bass. ------------------ -justin SoundWise Support A technical help site created by me and my fellow Klipschers I am an amateur, if it is professional; ProMedia help you want email Amy or call her @ 1-888-554-5665 or for an RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5 Klipsch Home Audio help you want, email support@klipsch.com or call @ 1-800-KLIPSCH RA# Fax Number=317-860-9140 / Parts Department Fax Number=317-860-9150s> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Any Synergy or Reference will be fine, but you need a big sub for bass. DO NOT use normal speakers for bass, use a subwoofer. Enjoy, get the best you can afford. Cup-of-Noodle is just as good as steak if you have a nice HT!!! ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 Reference all the way. Can't compare. I think even for bang-for-the buck the Ref 3's blow the Synergy line out of the water. Same for the subs, I don't care much for the KSW subs, but the RSW perform like charms. A bit on the pricey side though. But that's just my two cents. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpgwagon Posted April 7, 2002 Share Posted April 7, 2002 For the money the Synergy's can't be beat. For Home theater Synergy's and a KSW are Great. Music is a Different issue. When properly placed a KSW is a very good sub. ------------------ http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/MYSTUFF.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 Since I have both the Synergy and Reference and compared both side by side here is my take on this. If you get Synergy the best sounding speaker in the lineup is the SB-3.Great as a main,needs a solid and stable 18" stand.This done you add a set of SB-2's as rears and SC-1 for center and you have a good souning setup.Detail is quite good,coloration kept in check as long as the speakers dont stick too close to corners or walls.Again proper stands are a must. Now the subwoofer part,I would at least get a KSW15,good inexpensive sub.If you can stretch the sub budget and get the RSW12,much more power and very high definition,no boom,just clean bass. And the non Klipsch sub to get would be a SVS CS or CS-Plus with the integrated amp.Keep in mind the RSW12 is plenty as it is. No doubt the Reference series is superior in almst any way you could imagine.Better quality drivers, wiring, choice of finishes.The driver change is the most dramatic,midrange and upper detail is better.Bass has more punch and definition.Its a whole new level,for those who are used to brand name speakers. The best price/performance combo would be built around the RF-3's,probably a RC-3 and RS-5's sourrounds. Me I have two pairs of RF-7's,RC-7 and RF-5's(side sourrounds).No need to tell you a sub is almost an option with the RF-7's and a big power amp. With the Reference I would at least get a RSW12,here forget a KSW sub. I use the Synergy with my PC system and Reference in my smaller HT. Cant complain,Klipsch has done its homework. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anarchist Posted April 8, 2002 Share Posted April 8, 2002 During my listening tests the RSW12 was barely adequate in conjuntion with the RF7's. I would settle for no less than the 15 and most likely would take SVS CS+ over that. That said I have all Synergy Premiere. IF you think an RF7 has bass, try KSP400's. Bada boom. I still want RF7's (the highs are incredible) for my other room but they are far removed from a priority since I got the 400's. The wife flipped over the size of the 400's, I can't imagine her reaction to 6 RF7's. I also want to see if those copper cones get more durable or if everyone continues to have them dent for no apparent reason. ------------------ Fronts - KSP 400's Center - C6 Surrounds - S6's Two channel - KG4's Sub - KSW200 Powered by - YAM995 The move to separates is coming, I can feel it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted April 9, 2002 Share Posted April 9, 2002 "I also want to see if those copper cones get more durable or if everyone continues to have them dent for no apparent reason." There is always a reason In my case I did not put the grilles on the speakers while doing major moving and cleaning.Can't blame the speakers,I do however agree the cones are a tiny bit fragile. Poor poor RF-7 woofer one more pair to go and I will be sourrounded with RF-7's. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crx2nr Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 my living room is about the size of yours and i have ksp-400's and a velodyne hgs-12. i think the velodyne would do quite nicely for you since it is a servo sub. and i also have lots of cracked plaster! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandern Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 I would spend the little extra money and get the Reference. The RF-3II's are not too bad in price $600 internet, 700-800 stores. But I heard from a sales man that in the middle of July they will be dropping in price about a $100 per speaker. Unless thats just a sale at their store that he told me about. Anyways after you get something you always want bigger after a while, so don't regret getting a smaller one and get the RF-3II right away. They will last for a long time and you will be much happier with them. ------------------ I like my bass like I like my women, deep and tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zandern Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Opps, forgot something. When shopping for a sub, dont' save $300-$400 dollars for one, wait the extra month or so and save more and get a big one right away. You won't ever regret it. ------------------ I like my bass like I like my women, deep and tight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guitarizt Posted April 12, 2002 Share Posted April 12, 2002 Anyone else hear about the price drop? This message has been edited by guitarizt on 04-12-2002 at 08:19 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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