StephenM Posted September 19, 2011 Share Posted September 19, 2011 but I don't under stand what you mean "present a net negative" lol. I mean that your self described "crappy" center speaker and old technics towers are probably putting out a lot of distortion relative to what the Velo and RF-82s are giving you, and that will detract from the overall fidelity of the sound system. In addition, that they need to be crossed at 120 and 100Hz respectively may make your subwoofer more localizable. So while it's nice to have 5.1, you might find you prefer the sound of your base 2.1 system until you get better replacement components (or not, who knows). Do I need to run a hpf on the sub? Won't it just not produce the sounds and not do any harm? Or can harm be done? I suspect every sub manufacturer with half a brain includes some sort of limiter to help prevent damage, and Velodyne definitely has some brains in their operation. Of course, if it bothers you enough, I'd ask HK what the heck the sub size is supposed to accomplish, and verify with Velodyne that your new toy does have a limiter/high pass filter to prevent damage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 f*********ckkkkk! My receiver randomly started making weird noise! Was watching star wars episode 1 on -10db and now it 'pulses' somewhat. The regular movie audio plays fine, but behind it, even when I mute the receiver, it's makes a weird sound, on and off, on and off. It's a quite sound, not very loud, and doesn't get louder/quiter with adjusting the volume output. It does it regardless of receiver mode/volume. Of course stops when I power off the receiver, but otherwise it does it so as it's turned on... And I had just put my secondary AVR-354 for sale on CL! haha. The secondary one's firmware is all mess and I'm having trouble updating it. baaahhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 actually, it's much worst in FM mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 unplugged power for a few seconds and plugged it back in and it went away... but it came back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 I used to own the HK 354 and I never had a single issue with it. Looks like it's time to pull some of your Future Shop strings. I highly doubt HK waste a sales person representing their receivers in a negative light. One bad opinion is worth 1,000 good opinions. Like what was mentioned earlier, if I was in your shoes I would just run your system in 2.1 for now until you can upgrade your center and surrounds. HK was always a pleasure to work with, I would just call them up and see what they recommend, they will probably have you send the unit in bu you might get back an upgraded version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I think it was an overheating issue. Because I unplugged it for 10 or so minutes. Then ran it and it never came back. In the stand I have, there's only about 1/2" room on top, and 1/4" on the sides. So if it happens again, I'll phone up HK and see what they say. I was reading up, and often HK replaces the unit with either a refurb or a AVR2600. I really wouldn't mind a 2600 cause it has 3D capabilities (with firmware upgrade via USB rather than stupid RS232), I'm running hdmi spitters to my tv cause the 354 doesn't do 3d. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 22, 2011 Share Posted September 22, 2011 Check your wiring. I've been asked to come over and fix dozens of systems with the same behavior, and it has always been a small fray of wire causing a soft short (a short not strong enough to put the amp into total limiting). Btw, everyone of those people was trying to convince me how they hooked up everything correctly, and even didn't find the short after I suggested they look for it. I would completely unplug every cable and make sure every single strand of wire makes its way into the binding post. If your wire is too fat, then cut off a few of the strands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted September 22, 2011 Author Share Posted September 22, 2011 I'm running monster banana plugs on everything. The noise was coming out of all 5 speakers tho :S but I'm thinking it was over heating, cause it's stopped for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted September 24, 2011 Author Share Posted September 24, 2011 Do you have to mount dipoles (Rs-42) on a wall? Or will speaker stands work? I can't mount em in my current place because they're plaster walls and on one side there's a window, so I have to use stands..... Also, is there and negatives of using RF-62s or 82s as surrounds if I've got the space? Cause I don't know how good RS-42s would match, and I can't order in RS-52s. So I'm stuck with either RB-61s, RF-62s or RF-82. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornfedksboy Posted September 25, 2011 Share Posted September 25, 2011 Dipoles are designed to be flush to the wall. It helps the reflection of the sound to create a surround experience, however many have had success with them on stands. The RS-42s would definitely work as would bookshelves or floor standers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 There's been a couple upgrades in the last while.... A month or two ago: -Monster HTS 1600 Powercenter $100 Last week: -Started off by getting 3 more pairs of the new Panasonic 3D glasses I only had the 1 pair before. Sadly finding out there's no loop-holes around getting surround and 3D to happen simultaneously with a HDMI 1.3 receiver which led to get.......... -Pioneer SC-1525 (SC-35 without the RS-232) for $600 :D OMG this thing sounds amazing, haven't fully got MCACC working, and I need to buy a SPL meter but still, so much nicer than the AVR 354! Yesterday: -Klipsch RC-52 This is also amazing, makes it sound as if real people are in the room, rather than 'listening to a speaker'.... I know I should have got the RC-62, but this is just temporary. I'll easily be able to sell if for what I paid, and then get a 62.... Future plans: -Harmony One or 900... I'd rather the 900, but depends if I feel like spending that much at the time -RB-61's for either surrounds or rear surrounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K5SS Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 It's good to see you are still at it. I also bought the SC-35 since your first post, it is a BEAST! Did you ever end up getting the Harmony 1100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 Nah... I still have 5 remotes I'll probably get a 900, I think I like the idea of being able to adjust volume without having to look down at the remote and that kind of thing.... maybe I can ask for it for Christmas Can anyone explain exactly how the RF works, so that it can adjust the settings of the components. Does it plug into crap etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted December 1, 2011 Author Share Posted December 1, 2011 and ya, the SC-1525 is crazy! I love it, all the little things are so 'crisp'.... I thought my AVR-354 was loud. You were able to hear it slightly outside of my front door (on the same wall of that big window), but my house is quite old/thick and I live on a busy street. Now when I turn it up, you can hear it down my driveway and across the street! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 My RC-62 came in the mail yesterday, the thing is a beast! Haven't had a chance to listen to it yet, I just unboxed it an put it beside the RC-52 before work yesterday. Excited to get home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted December 15, 2011 Moderators Share Posted December 15, 2011 My RC-62 came in the mail yesterday, the thing is a beast! Congrats on the new RC-62 Calvin. If you think the RC-62 is big, you might want to stay away from the RC-7 and the RC-64. I knew the dimensions before ordering it but was still surprised at how big it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vw_calvin Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 No, I'm familiar with the RC-64 from my dreams..... I WISH I could get the RC-64, but unfortunately Futureshop doesn't carry it! It's about as big as a full RF-62 right? We don't have too much hi-end stuff When I first started, I had the options of either the Klipsch RF-82 II HT system, Energy Veritas system, or Martin Logan Electromotions but no matching center/rears/etc. The Veritas were really crisp but too bright/sharp? for my liking (at the time). They didn't feel like they had much "oomph" where the Klipsch did. Lots of my co-workers went with the RF-82 system and recommended it. So I went Klipsch! Plus they were cheaper.... I've now grown to like bright systems..... That or maybe I've just became accustomed to really clean audio, the new receiver is a crapload more bright than my old HK. First I wasn't 100% pleased because everything was so harsh but after listening to it for 3 weeks it's waaaaayyy better! Question tho! I can't seem to get MCCACC to work properly. It keeps telling me my sub is way too loud (before the calibration started!) and I've got it turned all the way down... Then if i just hit skip to proceed and ignore the sub, the final settings end up like L: -12.0dB C: -12.0dB R: -12.0dB SL: -3.0dB SR: -2.0dB where -12.0dB is the minimum my amp can adjust to, so who's to say that it doesn't want to go even lower and it can't! Then when I was out of the house my roommate setup his macbook with a nice mic, my Apogee Duet (DAC), and used some program and manually calibrated it, and found that the 3 front speakers don't match up dB wise as in L: 0.0dB C: -1.5dB R: +1.0dB Why they all difference levels? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 20, 2011 Share Posted December 20, 2011 The problem is the mic location confuses the program....move it a few inches and it'll do something different. I would just set your mains to zero, and then manually adjust everything else by ear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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