mustang guy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You did AWESOME! I'd buy another pair at that price even though I don't need them! LOL Your name and story are familiar....were you posting over on AVS? It sounds in a way like you feel you've settled for a lesser speaker than the 83? If you've got the room and can get them dialed in well, I think your search for something "better" will be over. The AL3 crossover is considered less desirable by most people. Mine came with them and I switched out to AA's with a few extra filters (thanks to the help of speakerfritz). It did smooth the sound out a bit. Nothing drastic, but something to put in the back of your mind for now. Enjoy! I wish I had known you were wanting to get rid of AL-3's. I actually prefer them to the AA's. Right now I have 4 AA speakers, and 2 AL-3's. I wish all six were AL-3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 You did AWESOME! I'd buy another pair at that price even though I don't need them! LOL Your name and story are familiar....were you posting over on AVS? It sounds in a way like you feel you've settled for a lesser speaker than the 83? If you've got the room and can get them dialed in well, I think your search for something "better" will be over. The AL3 crossover is considered less desirable by most people. Mine came with them and I switched out to AA's with a few extra filters (thanks to the help of speakerfritz). It did smooth the sound out a bit. Nothing drastic, but something to put in the back of your mind for now. Enjoy! I wish I had known you were wanting to get rid of AL-3's. I actually prefer them to the AA's. Right now I have 4 AA speakers, and 2 AL-3's. I wish all six were AL-3. This strikes my interest. Can you seriously hear the difference between the AA and AL-3s? Or do you need some kind of monitor or metering device to detect? hmmmm thanks, jav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 You did AWESOME! I'd buy another pair at that price even though I don't need them! LOL Your name and story are familiar....were you posting over on AVS? It sounds in a way like you feel you've settled for a lesser speaker than the 83? If you've got the room and can get them dialed in well, I think your search for something "better" will be over. The AL3 crossover is considered less desirable by most people. Mine came with them and I switched out to AA's with a few extra filters (thanks to the help of speakerfritz). It did smooth the sound out a bit. Nothing drastic, but something to put in the back of your mind for now. Enjoy! I wish I had known you were wanting to get rid of AL-3's. I actually prefer them to the AA's. Right now I have 4 AA speakers, and 2 AL-3's. I wish all six were AL-3. This strikes my interest. Can you seriously hear the difference between the AA and AL-3s? Or do you need some kind of monitor or metering device to detect? hmmmm thanks, jav My left and right are AL-3's, and my center is an AA. You can definitely tell a difference. My problem is my sound stage is kinda screwed up because of the voice matching. Still, I want those AL-3's up front. I will find another AL-3 some day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Can you break these speakers? I mean fry the coils, capacitors, transistors, blow the paper cone, etc? It is just unreal. Not likely in the home theater environment...but technically yes, you can. Respect the fact that they will blow out your ears and cave in your face well before they are ready to check out. 124 dB max SPL at 1 meter is no joke. [:|] FYI- Keep tabs on your subwoofer at spirited listening levels..It'll be sweating pretty good to maintain pace with the La Scala's. I will find another AL-3 some day... ...could always hit up Bob Crites for one, if some day never comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TasDom Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Attached is my HT with La Scala speakers. Your HT looked nice with the towers but wow, those La Scalas just integrate so nice with the rest of your equipment and furnishings. Very, very nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragusa3 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Your learning curve was fast young grasshopper! It only takes a brief few minutes of listening to come to the dark side. I could tell more difference when adding polycarbonate bypass filters than I could the actual change in crossover. Mustang. Yeah, we could have helped each other out. That was about a year ago, and speakerfritz made me an even swap. You may contact him if looking for AL3's ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Can you break these speakers? I mean fry the coils, capacitors, transistors, blow the paper cone, etc? It is just unreal. Not likely in the home theater environment...but technically yes, you can. Respect the fact that they will blow out your ears and cave in your face well before they are ready to check out. 124 dB max SPL at 1 meter is no joke. FYI- Keep tabs on your subwoofer at spirited listening levels..It'll be sweating pretty good to maintain pace with the La Scala's. [ Love the dramatic analogy... I play them loud at least 2-3 a month on weekends only to allow my ears to recover...[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Attached is my HT with La Scala speakers. Your HT looked nice with the towers but wow, those La Scalas just integrate so nice with the rest of your equipment and furnishings. Very, very nice! Thanks Tasdom. I had no place for the sub so I set it on top of the other scala. I have a space behind the wall I'm thinking to place the sub in...that or I'll just keep it on top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thanks everyone. I appreciate the kind and helpful feed back. There is a single La Scala listed in CL right now but it's AA. The Klipsch emblem on one of the speaker fell off during transport and I can't find it. Anyone know where I can get a replacement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mustang guy Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thanks everyone. I appreciate the kind and helpful feed back. There is a single La Scala listed in CL right now but it's AA. The Klipsch emblem on one of the speaker fell off during transport and I can't find it. Anyone know where I can get a replacement? Go to the garage sale section of the forums and post a message WTB Klipsch emblem, and show a picture of the one you have. Somebody will PM you very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I had no place for the sub so I set it on top of the other scala. I have a space behind the wall I'm thinking to placethe sub in...that or I'll just keep it on top. Funny when your speakers are much larger than your sub! Hey, I join the crowd here to express that I am happy that another person has seen the Heritage light. There will be no going back now. Thoese speakers are just that good. It's funny to see how you were so doubtful yesterday and happy today. When you describe the sound exploding in a scene after quiet dialog... that's dynamics for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thanks PSG. That dynamic you speak of scared the heck out of me. I raced for the controller and tried to bring it down quickly and it took a couple second to tame it. But that couple of second was long enough for a flashback "crap, I'm going to lose my hearing now"...simillar kind of flashback just before you die...lol. BTW, I looked at your speaker setup and have to ask, how's your hearing? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Go to the garage sale section of the forums and post a message WTB Klipsch emblem, and show a picture of the one you have. Somebody will PM you very soon. Thanks Mustang guy, I will do just that. jav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Thanks PSG. That dynamic you speak of scared the heck out of me. I raced for the controller and tried to bring it down quickly and it took a couple second to tame it. But that couple of second was long enough for a flashback "crap, I'm going to lose my hearing now"...simillar kind of flashback just before you die...lol. I have an amplifier with meters on it indicating the instantaneous power drawn (assuming a nominal load, it measure voltage not actual power). It can get pretty loud in the room and I look back and see something around one Watt. Yep, 1 Watt. Say you have a friend with 88 dB sensitivity speakers, pretty average. He is overdriving them to reach loud peaks in movies and wondering how your RF-3 could play so loud and so effortlessly. The answer is that they have a sensitivity of 98 dB, 10 dB more than your friend's. You only need 10W to play as loud as his 100W. Now move over to the La Scala and its 104 dB sensitivity, 6 dB more again (and a horn-loaded bass bin to boot). You need only 2.5 Watts to play as loud now. No more racing to the volume control on loud passages. BTW, I looked at your speaker setup and have to ask, how's your hearing? Thery can play loud but it doesn't mean they have to. They play really well at low level too, with strings plucked in front of you and voices located precisely. I listen to jazz trios at -40 dB on my volume dial, or about 0.01 Watt. Of course, once in a while I will crank it close to the max. But then it's the bass that gets loud and that doesn't drive you out of the room as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragusa3 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Are you considering that single for the center? If you are, I can't recommend it enough. Your current center is a weak link that will really hold back the system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Are you considering that single for the center? If you are, I can't recommend it enough. Your current center is a weak link that will really hold back the system. You is evil! Do you know what you're asking of me? Three years ago, I designed, architected, and framed my HT with the RF-3s specs. The RC-3 fits perfectly in its enclosure. However, my design obviously has a flaw; I did not account for growth or scalability... [] That means I have to demo the overhang and redo the enclosure for RC-64...don't think that didn't cross my mind already... [] I just finished watching MI: Ghost Protocol(7.1 TrueHD) and already I noticed dialogues from the center is weak, or maybe my mind just playing tricks on me after reading your post, I think the L/C/R are imbalance but an RC-64 probably can make a difference...dunno. Anything bigger would not work for me....I simply don't have room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psg Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Or.. remove the overhang structure and simply hang a Heresy there (Heck, looks like you could put an upside-down La Scala up there!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
javelin Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Or.. remove the overhang structure and simply hang a Heresy there (Heck, looks like you could put an upside-down La Scala up there!) haha! that's a wicked idea....it can work! I could make it look like a mini-IMAX! lol [<)] If I can snag a single La Scala, I'll tear that thing off... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 20, 2012 Moderators Share Posted April 20, 2012 I just finished watching MI: Ghost Protocol(7.1 TrueHD) and already I noticed dialogues from the center is weak I just picked it up tonight as well. Plan on watching it tomorrow night when the wife is gone. That way I can crank it up. The RC-64 is a serious center. Love mine. Crank it up and it just sings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tragusa3 Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 MI4 was an outstanding soundtrack! Watch it near reference level and I guarantee you'll jump several times! Particularly, the handguns were just stunning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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