bracurrie Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 I spoke with Dave Harris several months ago and decided to try his Eliptrac horns. Coupled with the Faital HF200 driver the result is very satisfying. I am using the MiniDSP and with some trial and error strictly by ear I now am hearing nuances in music I thought I knew very well. Just in case I was fooling myself I brought a good friend with thirty years experience in the high end audio business to listen and maybe suggest a teak or two that may improve the setup. He has always been highly critical of horns, but he loves the Eliptrac/Faital combo and voluntered that it was the first horn high end setup that he could listen to for extended periods. He was also impressed by the miniDSP's flexibility to change crossover settings, time delay and EQ on they fly while listening. When he realized what I spent to get this kind of result he just shook his head and commented that a lot of people that know music (here in Nashville) spend ten times as much and do not get as good an outcome. Thanks to Dave and Bob Crites for the help along the way. I just hope I resist the irresistible urge to make changes to the other parts of the system for a while. The system: Audio Research SP6 miniDSP Adcom 535 on the high end Eliptrac/Faital horns Phase Linear 400 on the Jubilee clone/Crites bass horns I do not own the PL amp, but have a chance to buy it for 350 dollars. I know the reputation is that they blow up and as a result a good many have been modded or otherwise are ruined. This one is a one owner that was sold by my above mentioned friend. Its been opened recently and its operating to specs. I have used it for a month or so with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted July 19, 2012 Author Share Posted July 19, 2012 Sorry about the format of the post. Don't quite understand what the problem is, but ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechMan Posted July 19, 2012 Share Posted July 19, 2012 Nice review but... Your Bass bin looks upside down [^o)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny's Jill Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Really nice review, I also have the Eliptrac 400 but with the DE85TN drivers, sounds great-no fatigue. I really need to try the mini dsp, I have an ashley and behringer, Dave suggested I use the mini. More great amps for low $$$ is the Emotiva gear. Dave has several, very impressive sound. Craig 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1101 Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Where can I read about this Audio Research miniDSP? I don't find it on their site. Must be looking in the wrong place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted July 20, 2012 Share Posted July 20, 2012 Mark, it isn't an AR product. Try this: http://www.minidsp.com/ (opens in a new window...) Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted July 26, 2012 Author Share Posted July 26, 2012 Nice review but... Your Bass bin looks upside down Ah, but of course. No really, I mounted the casters so I could move them easier. But discovered that I liked the bin on the floor, so I turn them upside down. I can do that, can't I? [:^)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David H Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I spoke with Dave Harris several months ago and decided to try his Eliptrac horns. Coupled with the Faital HF200 driver the result is very satisfying. I am using the MiniDSP and with some trial and error strictly by ear I now am hearing nuances in music I thought I knew very well. Just in case I was fooling myself I brought a good friend with thirty years experience in the high end audio business to listen and maybe suggest a teak or two that may improve the setup. He has always been highly critical of horns, but he loves the Eliptrac/Faital combo and voluntered that it was the first horn high end setup that he could listen to for extended periods. He was also impressed by the miniDSP's flexibility to change crossover settings, time delay and EQ on they fly while listening. When he realized what I spent to get this kind of result he just shook his head and commented that a lot of people that know music (here in Nashville) spend ten times as much and do not get as good an outcome. Thanks to Dave and Bob Crites for the help along the way. I just hope I resist the irresistible urge to make changes to the other parts of the system for a while. The system: Audio Research SP6 miniDSP Adcom 535 on the high end Eliptrac/Faital horns Phase Linear 400 on the Jubilee clone/Crites bass horns I do not own the PL amp, but have a chance to buy it for 350 dollars. I know the reputation is that they blow up and as a result a good many have been modded or otherwise are ruined. This one is a one owner that was sold by my above mentioned friend. Its been opened recently and its operating to specs. I have used it for a month or so with no issues. Wow, thanks for the nice write-up. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bracurrie Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 I am not an audio engineer and did not stay at a Holiday Inn Express. I need a how to for taking measurements using REW and taking those results and using them to EQ using the miniDSP. Thanks ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny's Jill Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 What gear do you have for taking measurements? Dayton mic and Tascam us122mkII work nicely. Craig 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny's Jill Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 I would think for the Jubilee, you would want to cross somewhere around 600hz. The Mini DSP has a limited amount of configurable EQ's, so you may want to address only the problem area's. I suspect 50-200hz. The HF using Daves horn and the Faital Pro is reasonably flat, wont need much if any EQ. Craig 73 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bracurrie Posted July 31, 2012 Author Share Posted July 31, 2012 I have them crossed at 650hz using BW 6db/oct slops. Mid range sound intergration(if there is such a thing) is not as good as it should be, IMO. I would also like to tackle the problems down below 40hz to the extent that's possible. I have REW and a mic that came with my DBX driverack (not currently in use). There are calibration files available for the mic, but I understand the adjustments are generic and maybe not specific to the my mic. I agree that the HF using Daves horn and the Faital are indeed flat and wonderful. I tried them alone at low volume and was amazed at the sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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