sfatula Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 Well, bigger is not always better! I laugh when I see that commercial and see people hauling around oversize phones that don't fit anywhere. Anyway, here's the thing. I have a pretty good theater room, mostly air tight, bass trap, quest ai panels, and, currently set it up with my KSP-400 speakers, each of which have a sub, and, that was way overpowered, the bass. So, I don't want anything more bass wise than they provide. Not sure if the room affects the bass level, but, sure seems that way. It was much different in my old house in just a "room". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 If properly setup up no system should ever have too much bass. I'm wondering what receiver you have and what kind of auto calibration it uses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 If the speakers and subs are setup and calibrated nicely, even a 22 in. sub should not be to much bass. The larger subs can get louder but, they shine in producing the under 30 Hz band. This is felt more than heard and will give a tactical feel to the movies in a HT system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share Posted September 11, 2013 I see, well, it was admittedly a test only. i.e., with the minimal effort and time, so many things to do when moving, just tried the KSP-400's with each having one sub, not calibrated (well it is calibrated, just to old house) to see if a simple test could show me if subs can drive enough volume wise, and it was clear they could. Was not considering the low end, which I should. Receiver is Pioneer SC-55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 What about the Bic PL-200? Any good? It goes down to 22Hz. 12' instead of SW-115 15", but, I can get it *vastly* cheaper. Thinking of 2 of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Where are you located? Some forum members can help you find a nice sub. The Bic is OK but, the longer you stick around this hobby, you will most likely want something elese. What is you max budget for a sub? How much room do you have for the sub and how bid is the room? This will help us locate something for you.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Calera, OK, rural. About an hour from Dallas area. Room is 15x25, 9/10' ceiling, Quest AI panels, bass trap, mostly soundproof, double sheetrock green glued, etc. I don't have a budget. I don't subscribe to the method where one buys the most they can afford, that's simply not me. Instead, I buy what sound good enough for me for the lowest price. I can't believe the BIC would be any better than the SW-310. I am almost convinced though that a pair of SW-115 might fit the bill due to the lower end. It is hard to find a similar or lower priced sub than can go down that far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 You are about 7.5 hours from me. I have some family in Tulsa. Are you handy with tools? You could build a couple like I did and they are really easy to build. For a amp about half the size of mine and destroy a couple sw-115's for less money. If not I bet you could Get a couple 115's for 1300$ish. If you wanted to Drive and not build them you can order the stuff and send them to me And I'll build Em for you? I thoroughly enjoyed putting them together lol. Then you could come pick em up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 Oh and also I owned the bic-pl200 for a while and while its ok for the price it is good for movies and terrible for music. Just slow and boomy. And also it will go down to 22 but doesn't have much authority down that low. And that's where the magic happens in movies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula Posted September 12, 2013 Author Share Posted September 12, 2013 Well, I used to be handy with tools but alas, my body fails me, too many health issues. Of course, I always think I can, just have to be realistic. For your custom sub, how low does it go? What do you think the entire setup would cost for you to build, parts + labor? Approximate. PM me if needed. Yes, I used to live in Bixby, just S of Tulsa, always loved Tulsa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 My subs are flat down to 10 hz and extend down to 7 or so. At least that's what my mic will go down to but some aren't sure. I haven't found anything mine won't play at high volumes with ease. I'll send you a pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 As a general rule, the larger the subwoofer the deeper the extension and are more powerful. Amp size is not that important with subs, it is all about displacement of air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfatula Posted September 25, 2013 Author Share Posted September 25, 2013 One minor (NOT!) detail, I don't have the 26" deep space for the SW-115. I presume it's 26" + 1+" for the cable(s). Any problem facing them sideways on the front wall to provide more room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivanhurd Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 It could work. Might not get the absolute *best* sound, but I'm sure it'd be fine. You might want to keep shopping for something that would fit your application better tho... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Here I go again lol. These diy 18's I built I believe are only 20 inches deep. And you can stand them up where they are narrower and taller or lay em down where wider and shorter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derrickdj1 Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 Get the SW 115 if it's size is not a problem. Most of us consider it the best sub in the current line up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scrappydue Posted September 25, 2013 Share Posted September 25, 2013 One minor (NOT!) detail, I don't have the 26" deep space for the SW-115. I presume it's 26" + 1+" for the cable(s). Any problem facing them sideways on the front wall to provide more room? Get the SW 115 if it's size is not a problem. Most of us consider it the best sub in the current line up. i thinks it's not feasible Derrick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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