Schu Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 I thought I would share this... for those of you always on the go! 3 Quote
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 5, 2015 Moderators Posted April 5, 2015 Valves in a car, what a novel idea. Quote
Don Richard Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 I would rather the valves be located in the engine, not near the engine. Quote
NOSValves Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Valves have been on the go since the 1920's....the Russian Military still has Valves in all the tanks, Mig jets and what not.... those little fire bottles are tougher then you think! 1 Quote
Schu Posted April 5, 2015 Author Posted April 5, 2015 Valves have been on the go since the 1920's....the Russian Military still has Valves in all the tanks, Mig jets and what not.... those little fire bottles are tougher then you think! emp Proof? Quote
OO1 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Valves have been on the go since the 1920's....the Russian Military still has Valves in all the tanks, Mig jets and what not.... those little fire bottles are tougher then you think! emp Proof? - what a whole lot of nostalgia -EMP hardening has ebabled the military forces across the world to replace Tubes - and than includes the Russians -tubes amps are not immuned to EMP either -the Russians have new technology that is devoid of tubes since the 70's - -in todays world where you need a brain in the electronics of military equipment - unfortunately - tubes are obsolete - on the other hand , if you are a music sound audiophile - tubes are high end equipment -for the ones who can afford it - Edited April 5, 2015 by Randyh Quote
derrickdj1 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 The US military would be wise to have something that will work after a huge EMP from one of those booms, lol. The Russians made not be that far behind the times. Quote
OO1 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 The US military would be wise to have something that will work after a huge EMP from one of those booms, lol. The Russians made not be that far behind the times. no worry here - they have it by the spades -and far ahead of the game - Quote
NOSValves Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 Valves have been on the go since the 1920's....the Russian Military still has Valves in all the tanks, Mig jets and what not.... those little fire bottles are tougher then you think! emp Proof? - what a whole lot of nostalgia -EMP hardening has ebabled the military forces across the world to replace Tubes - and than includes the Russians -tubes amps are not immuned to EMP either -the Russians have new technology that is devoid of tubes since the 70's - -in todays world where you need a brain in the electronics of military equipment - unfortunately - tubes are obsolete - on the other hand , if you are a music sound audiophile - tubes are high end equipment -for the ones who can afford it - And you get the entirety of the above information from where? Link please. Quote
NOSValves Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 I'm pretty sure the MIG 25 is still in service and utilizes a 6C33C-B triode in the Radar scope system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-25 Quote
OO1 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) Valves have been on the go since the 1920's....the Russian Military still has Valves in all the tanks, Mig jets and what not.... those little fire bottles are tougher then you think! emp Proof? - what a whole lot of nostalgia -EMP hardening has ebabled the military forces across the world to replace Tubes - and than includes the Russians -tubes amps are not immuned to EMP either -the Russians have new technology that is devoid of tubes since the 70's - -in todays world where you need a brain in the electronics of military equipment - unfortunately - tubes are obsolete - on the other hand , if you are a music sound audiophile - tubes are high end equipment -for the ones who can afford it - And you get the entirety of the above information from where? Link please. I'm pretty sure the MIG 25 is still in service and utilizes a 6C33C-B triode in the Radar scope system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-25 - they used to use the 6C33C in the 70's and that proved to the West that the feared Mig 25 was a DUD - and obsolete technology - the Russians lack of modern technology became so evident that the Soviet Union collapsed for the reason of obsolescence - one main reason to use tubes in the 70's was the inability of the russians to manufacture solid state quality components - they have however evolved in the interim - EMP had nothing to do with the choice of Tubes Edited April 5, 2015 by Randyh Quote
OO1 Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 (edited) I'm pretty sure the MIG 25 is still in service and utilizes a 6C33C-B triode in the Radar scope system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-25 That radar is pretty old stuff - even with a 6C33C , it was not a technology marvel of any kind Edited April 5, 2015 by Randyh Quote
joshnich Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 The comment wasn't that tubes were used in technological marvels. ..... Only that they are still being used. Quote
NOSValves Posted April 5, 2015 Posted April 5, 2015 And they are still used by the Russian military. Quote
OO1 Posted April 6, 2015 Posted April 6, 2015 (edited) And they are still used by the Russian military Russia is a superpower , would they still be using tubes , they would be considered a third world country at best - Edited April 6, 2015 by Randyh Quote
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 6, 2015 Moderators Posted April 6, 2015 Our EMP hardening is a technological marvel, but the technology itself isn't a marvel is it? Shuttle used IBM System/4 Pi. The Orion is using 3 Honeywell built computers based on the RAD 750 chip available since 2002, from the IBM Thinkpad 750. That chip is obsolete, but very reliable. Used by Boeing in modern 747s and then the 787. The EPM hardening drives the cost up to 300K per chip, and is made by British Aerospace. Speed, RAM, memory, all seem to take a back seat to reliable, time tested, technology when it come to aerospace and even Mil-Standard-2169. A large number of our gravity nuclear bombs still use vacuum tubes, one of which controls the radar fuse. From what I saw on C-span and read in Jaynes, a great deal of our military hardening had occurred since 2010, and there have been several acts on Congress to fund that. Quote
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted April 6, 2015 Moderators Posted April 6, 2015 And they are still used by the Russian military. As well as USA Military, as least in our nukes. Quote
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