prodj101 Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 hey everyone, I was just curious what you think of the system I have in the works. Currently, my system has SF-2 fronts, SC-1 center, SF-1 rear, and RSW-15 sub. I am planning on getting the RF-7's about 5 months down the road, and switchin over to a 2.1 system (those are my favorite. something about the simplicity and style). The RSW-15 was sort of the first step towards this system. I will be using 2- 100 watt tube amps that I built my self, a pre amp I made myself, and the second to top of the line sony SACD player. ------------------ -the forum prowler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 prodj101, It will be awesome !! But for 2 channel music I bet you will not want to use the Sub the RF-7s will put out plenty of bass and sound better without the sub for music even Hip hop or Rapp. I have RF-3 II's in my HT setup that I listen to Music on often and find it sounds better without the Sub. Also I think 100 Watt tube amps will be over kill to say the least !!! you want need more than 15 Watts max. Craig ------------------ HH Scott 299 Amp HH Scott LT-110B Tuner HH Scott P-87 Turn Table JVC JL-F50 Turn Table Sony CDP-CA7ES CD Drive 1985 Walnut Heresey I W/Layne Audio Woofers KSW-15 Subs>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodj101 Posted August 26, 2002 Author Share Posted August 26, 2002 I'm all about overkill...... ------------------ Tha System Front- SF-2 Rear- SF-1 Center- SC-1 Receiver- Cheap Pioneer Amp for stereo Listening- Home-made tube amp 100 watt monoblocks second to top of the line sony SACD- Technics Turntable, Pioneer Turntable, Gemini Turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justin_tx_16 Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 i don't think so. i have heard a two channel RF-7 system and yes you don't NEED a sub, but adding a sub really helped punch out those lows. Infact, I don't think I would own a two channel system without a sub, unless they were my headphones The RSW-15 is a great match for what you are doing. If you wanted to jam pomps and pipes at 100+db... i would say some SVS's but ya know, you gotta cut it off at some point! or do you..... Klipsch Horns anyone? ------------------ -justin SoundWise promediatech@Klipsch.com /1-888-554-5665 - RA# 800-554-7724 ext 5s> Email Me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Give yourself a few years and your taste might change... You never know what wisdom might bring; perhaps a sub for sale? heh... kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 I used to think ALL subs were awful (including those from Klipsch) --I tried many over the years and every one of them screwed up the music. But then a friend of mine who is a Linn dealer gave me a Linn "Sizmik" subwoofer to try about 6-8 months ago and it's STILL in my system. Yep, I bought it! Even with the "freind of the owner" discount it set me back about $1200 or so, but it did things that no other sub was able to do. I rarely admit to it, but I listen to quite a lot of 1950's and 60's organ-driven "soul jazz" (John Patton, Babyface Willette, Lonnie Smith, John Earland, Jimmy Smith, etc.) and the thumping organ-bass absoultely SNAPS into place with the Linn without coloring or slowing down the music in ANY noticeable way. I don't think I need the sub for most of the music I listen to, but the Linn doesn't HURT any of it either. All in all, the Sizmik an excellent (if pricey) addition to the Cornwalls. I can reccomend this product without any reservations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 How, dear Lord, could I have left out Freddie Roach in the list of soul-jazz organists? Mo' Greens Please, indeed! (And I DID leave Richard "Groove" Holmes out on purpose in case anyone noticed). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allan Songer Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 And what about Larry Young and Billy Gardner? They should have been on the list too--especially Garnder, his playing on those mid-60's George Braith LPs is still astonishing. By the way, any one else out there love soul-jazz organ? Or am I alone in Klipsh-land on this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 Allan, You purchased the LINN Sizmik! Well well I just auditioned this little gorgeous cube of sub bass and...very musical,great blend,great...finish.Ah the LINN quality wood finishes are second to none. I will have one by the year end. I must have one,me must buy.Maybe another Sizmik down the long road to audio nirvana. Happy to hear you like the Sizmik,as too many think small sub bass cubes can only be loud and deprived of musicality. TheEAR(s) Now theears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodj101 Posted August 26, 2002 Author Share Posted August 26, 2002 jeez, whats with you guys and low power stuff? I understand that you don't need alot to drive Klipsch speakers, however, alot of headroom is always nice. Plus, theres a good chance I could be using it for DJ events, which I have done about 6 of in the past. ------------------ Tha System Front- SF-2 Rear- SF-1 Center- SC-1 RSW-15 for the sub Receiver- Cheap Pioneer Amp for stereo Listening- Home-made tube amp 100 watt monoblocks second to top of the line sony SACD- Technics Turntable, Pioneer Turntable, Gemini Turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 prodj101 What you don't seem to understand is that with 100+ Db speakers you have major headroom with 10 Watt amplifiers !!!! The problem with most high powered amps is that there sweet spot of operation is way above a usualable level on a Klipsch speaker so they never achieve there best capable sound. While are low powered tube amps sound there best at there lower output at say 5 to 7 watts. Are you seeing are point here ?? Craig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted August 26, 2002 Share Posted August 26, 2002 In my experience high power amps are needed for ultimate dynamics even with high efficiency speakers. I used LaScalas with a 200wpc Dynaco and used every bit of the amp. I don't listen as loud now but I'm content now with less than lifelike volume now too. And after time spent listening to low powered amps used fullrange I find the dynamic freedom and clarity of a big-hog SS amp is refreshing. At the Lima show I got sick to death of SETs and found a friend's big JBL horns driven by QSC SS amps much more lifelike than many of the SET-horn rigs I heard there. I figure a guy with an SET is getting the sound he likes, fine. But he ain't getting all the dynamics, no way. It's a tradeoff. www.chicagohornspeakerclub.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodj101 Posted August 27, 2002 Author Share Posted August 27, 2002 no, you don't understand, I love extremely loud music and I'm a dj, incase you didn't read my screen name. You don't get by as a dj with a 5 watt amp. ------------------ Tha System Front- SF-2 Rear- SF-1 Center- SC-1 RSW-15 for the sub Receiver- Cheap Pioneer Amp for stereo Listening- Home-made tube amp 100 watt monoblocks second to top of the line sony SACD- Technics Turntable, Pioneer Turntable, Gemini Turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Maybe not in a 80 X 40 dance hall !!!!! But were talking in your livingroom. You can't tell me 108db + volume isn't enough ?? That above Rock concert levels these day's !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 TBrennan, I wasn't at Lima and I'm not a Set man myself but wasn't most of the set amps you heard there in a 2-5 Watt range. I'm not into that at all I heard one at your Horn meet I attended a few months back and wasn't impressed it wasn't even able to drowned out the talking in the room !!! I'm not saying that he should get a 3 Watt set amp at all. I'm just saying that 100 watts is way more than is needed with a 100+ db speaker period and he is talking about 100 watt tube amp that's like a 400 watt SS amp. My heresy's don't need all the 20 watts my Push Pull Scott has to offer and all the dynamics you can stand !! Craig This message has been edited by NOS440 on 08-27-2002 at 10:45 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Comma. , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prodj101 Posted August 27, 2002 Author Share Posted August 27, 2002 sorry to argue with you NOS, but, I am not the type of person who would buy something just because it's all that they need. ------------------ Tha System Front- SF-2 Rear- SF-1 Center- SC-1 RSW-15 for the sub Receiver- Cheap Pioneer Amp for stereo Listening- Home-made tube amp 100 watt monoblocks second to top of the line sony SACD- Technics Turntable, Pioneer Turntable, Gemini Turntable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOSValves Posted August 27, 2002 Share Posted August 27, 2002 Enough said go your own way !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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