DOUBLE A Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) So I have a Klipsch KDA-1000 4 Ch amp that I want to use to power a pair of RF-7II’s. I will use two ch (500 watt) per speaker. my ? Is .. I’m trying to find out how are the speakers separated internally when I remove the binding posts. I will be putting 1- 250 watt channel per binding post..(500 watts total). basically, what’s the TOP post going too and what’s the BOTTOM post going too. whats the crossover doing ???? thanks, Bill Edited October 9, 2020 by DOUBLE A Mispelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2020 Welcome to the Forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Travis In Austin Posted October 9, 2020 Moderators Share Posted October 9, 2020 Give it awhile, you should have lots of responses by this evening. Lot of long time fans and owners of RF-7II here, and lots of crossover network knowledge on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Figured I’d put it under 2 specific forums.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Bottom posts go to the woofer(s) section of the crossover and top to the tweeter section. Removing the bars that shorts them together just removes the common connection between them that allows for using just one amp. The crossover is still in the circuit with the straps removed, just the high and low sections are now separated allowing the use of 2 amps or amp channels. Welcome to the Forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 Thanks. That is what I thought. my concern is.... Will the Tweeter handle 250 watts? i know the speaker handles 1000 watts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babadono Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Not knowing for a fact, I would still say no. But I will say long before you reach that much power to the tweeters it will be so loud you can't stand it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I would put the jumpers back on and run one set of wires. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 12, 2020 Author Share Posted October 12, 2020 Not putting jumpers back on.?.?.? I’m thinking you did not understand/read my initial post.. but, thanks anyway.... I’m trying to feed the RF-7II’s with more than 250 watts per channel. Speakers are 1000 watts ea. My KDA-1000 amps are 4 channel (250x4) non bridgeable........ this is why I’m REMOVING straps and BI AMPING. I might just pull crossover and see how it’s wired. I tried contacting Klipsch 4X’s, but the Arse farts don’t answer and I’m out on Tele prompted HOLD for over 40 min each time.. Also put in 4 call/email back requests. NEVER answered.... HORRIBLE Customer/Tech service.. I have over $15,000 in Klipsch products for my theater and I can’t get a simple answer from them..... Thats why I’m on here ... and still at square 1... To all ..... Thanks for your input. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Why do you need/want that much power going to them? {EDIT: They are rated by Klipsch at 102 dB@ 2.83v/1 meter.} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/9/2020 at 12:13 PM, DOUBLE A said: I’m trying to find out how are the speakers separated internally when I remove the binding posts. I'm thinkin' not much unless you change out the speaker's crossover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, DOUBLE A said: I’m trying to feed the RF-7II’s with more than 250 watts per channel. Speakers are 1000 watts ea. Speakers are 250 RMS each. 1000w peak doesn't mean that they'll handle 1000 watt amp for any length of time or even 500. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 5:53 PM, CECAA850 said: Speakers are 250 RMS each. 1000w peak doesn't mean that they'll handle 1000 watt amp for any length of time or even 500. On 10/12/2020 at 5:20 PM, Zen Traveler said: Why do you need/want that much power going to them? {EDIT: They are rated by Klipsch at 102 dB@ 2.83v/1 meter.} I mainly want the front to have more power while listening to music. 500 watts per speaker. I’m putting 250 watts per ch to the remaining 13 speakers. Not putting jumpers back on.?.?.? I’m thinking you did not understand/read my initial post.. but, thanks anyway.... I’m trying to feed the RF-7II’s with more than 250 watts per channel. Speakers are 1000 watts ea. My KDA-1000 amps are 4 channel (250x4) non bridgeable........ this is why I’m REMOVING straps and BI AMPING. I might just pull crossover and see how it’s wired. I tried contacting Klipsch 4X’s, but the Arse farts don’t answer and I’m out on Tele prompted HOLD for over 40 min each time.. Also put in 4 call/email back requests. NEVER answered.... HORRIBLE Customer/Tech service.. I have over $15,000 in Klipsch products for my theater and I can’t get a simple answer from them..... Thats why I’m on here ... and still at square 1... To all ..... Thanks for your input. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 I mainly want the front to have more power while listening to music. 500 watts per speaker. I’m putting 250 watts per ch to the remaining 13 speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CECAA850 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, DOUBLE A said: I’m trying to feed the RF-7II’s with more than 250 watts per channel. Speakers are 1000 watts ea. You need to learn the difference between RMS and Peak ratings before you go any further. Maybe if you explained why you need 500 watts/speaker we would better understand what you're trying to accomplish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 5:53 PM, CECAA850 said: Speakers are 250 RMS each. 1000w peak doesn't mean that they'll handle 1000 watt amp for any length of time or even 500. Great point.. ya know I never even saw the 250 rms. only saw the 1000... now I’m rethinking .. lol... CAN NOT believe I missed that !! Much Gratitude Bro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, DOUBLE A said: I mainly want the front to have more power while listening to music. 500 watts per speaker. I’m putting 250 watts per ch to the remaining 13 speakers. The question I feel you need to ask yourself is "how loud SPLwise do you want to listen?"and work backwards from there. You may be surprised how little power you need to get the dB you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, CECAA850 said: You need to learn the difference between RMS and Peak ratings before you go any further. Maybe if you explained why you need 500 watts/speaker we would better understand what you're trying to accomplish. 3 minutes ago, CECAA850 said: You need to learn the difference between RMS and Peak ratings before you go any further. Maybe if you explained why you need 500 watts/speaker we would better understand what you're trying to accomplish. EXCUSE ME BRO... You need to learn some people skills. IMO.... You sound a little arrogant and cocky over that KEYBOARD.... Terminology and understanding complex audio are not the issue.... BRO I quite clearly stated that I did not SEE the 250 rms.. not that I did not understand it. WTF ??? Do me a favor Bro... Please stay out of conversation.. have a a great day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOUBLE A Posted October 14, 2020 Author Share Posted October 14, 2020 EXCUSE ME BRO... You need to learn some people skills. IMO.... You sound a little arrogant and cocky over that KEYBOARD.... Terminology and understanding complex audio are not the issue.... BRO I quite clearly stated that I did not SEE the 250 rms.. not that I did not understand it. WTF ??? Do me a favor Bro... Please stay out of conversation.. have a a great day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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