Frzninvt Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Just keep in mind, your system is only as good as its weakest link. Sometimes when you get cheap, you get cheap if you know what I mean. But the bottom line is what sounds best to you within your given budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amonteiro Posted May 16, 2003 Author Share Posted May 16, 2003 The store that I have been dealing with told me that they will give me store credit for the receiver that I buy until one year after the purchase date if I do think of upgrading. Have you guys heard of this before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
easylistener Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Many places do this. It is a great option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amonteiro Posted May 16, 2003 Author Share Posted May 16, 2003 nice... so I'll just do that then. And a few months down the road if I decide to upgrade to the 3803(which I probably will), I'll do so then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhornKerry Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 DougDrake you said "So, doubling the volume (+10db) when you're already listening at a comfortable volume using 5 watts means you'll only need 10 watts to double the volume." That is not correct. It is not + 10 watts it is X 10 . If you were listing to a speaker at 5 watts and doubled the volume (approximately 10 dB increase sounds twice as loud) it be a 10 dB increase which is 5 X 10 = 50 watts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 KK - You are right. I was on crack at the time. Although I think it would be closer to 40 watts, as amp power doubled gives a 3db gain. Double once to add 3 db, double again to add 6db, double again to add 9db, which means a factor of 8 (2 to the 3rd power), or a total of 40 watts to add 9db. So, somewhere between 40 and 45 watts, IMO. Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Doug, don't you find it hard to type while you're on crack? Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Mastered it through years of experience (JK). Actually, that's what causes all the wrong statements of fact I make. I really know the stuff -- it just gets lost between the lobes and the finger tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 ---------------- On 5/16/2003 4:11:39 AM marksdad wrote: listen to moon, denon is ok, just not very musical they just seem to be limited, or holding back. ---------------- Just for clarification, I never said it was not musical. I was simply saying that it was ok, just like any other receiver. Mostly I was trying to point out that I have never been able to do a true A/B on Denon and H/K. I have yet to see a store where they are side beside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafDad Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 I have the same speakers as you with the Denon 1803 my hearing is OK but not great. I am very happy with this receiver with the exception of the remote, the wife is still not trained up on it. I would have liked an onscreen setup display rather than the LED readout, but once setup I have not fooled with it much, also less likely to have the kids "adjust it" for me. I have a typical 80's house the room this set up is in is about 16 X 30 feet. I do not have a sub yet perhaps a DIY in the future. The sound with this system for HT or music far surpasses anything that I have had previously and goes loud enough to have the neighbors ask me to turn it down, this was in winter with the windows closed (with the wife and kids gone). I considered the HK 525 and just did not want to spend that much, if I get the upgrade itch someday I may go HK and send the Denon to my brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danartdis Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 KhornKerry, Sweet setup! Not really any need for a sub there. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 DeafDad, Welcome to the forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amonteiro Posted May 16, 2003 Author Share Posted May 16, 2003 Ok I made my decision and got the ball rolling. I ordered the HK avr-525, I got a pretty good deal on it. But so much for eating for the next month. j/k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeafDad Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 Thanks m00n, been a bit of a lurker and have learned quite a bit from these forums. My brother turned me on the the RF3 a couple of years ago and I finally bit the bullet last fall with no regrets. BTW nice work on your setup! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted May 16, 2003 Share Posted May 16, 2003 ---------------- On 5/16/2003 3:43:12 PM DeafDad wrote: Thanks m00n, been a bit of a lurker and have learned quite a bit from these forums. My brother turned me on the the RF3 a couple of years ago and I finally bit the bullet last fall with no regrets. BTW nice work on your setup! ---------------- Thanks DeafDad. I need to put new pics up, but am waiting until I get my carpet down on my floor. I actually have my gear back in my room now and two rows of theater seats bolted down to the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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