SteelerFan Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 First Barry Bonds tried to claim he was clean, now he says his trainer gave him something and he didn't know what it was. I've been hanging out in gyms for most of my life and let me tell you if you are on steroids, you know it and so does everyone else. He dishonors players like Hank Aaron, Mickey Mantle, Roger Maris, Willie Mays, Babe Ruth and many others who relied on just talent and hard work. His and Giambi's and all the rest of the performance enhanced freaks should have asterisks by their records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev313 Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 While we are on the topic, as a life long Cubs fans, I gotta copule a asteriks for that mo**er f**k*r Sammy Sosa! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I agree, it's too bad that athletes feel compelled to take enhancements to further their career. It seems that they all get caught eventually and when you do, it kinda takes away from all the glory you've had up to that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 m00n, What is even sadder, is that past history with Steriods is out there -Take the football player from the Oakland Raiders who has/had cancer from Steriods.........and what it did to him........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m00n Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 I don't recall that story. I'm guessing it didn't have a good outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelerFan Posted December 11, 2004 Author Share Posted December 11, 2004 How about Steve Courson who started with the Steelers and ended up down here with the Tampa Bay? I was a member of a gym he used to go to in Clearwater (Horizons) where I saw him close grip bench over 400lb for 12 reps without coming close to failure. It all caved in on him when he took a training camp physical and they discovered a dangerously elevated resting heart rate. That was the end of the steroids for him and his career ended soon after. Last I heard, he was in need of a heart donor. I think he may have written a book about it. Could the heart problems Arnold had possibly be traced back to steroids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klipschfoot Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 ---------------- What is even sadder, is that past history with Steriods is out there -Take the football player from the Oakland Raiders who has/had cancer from Steriods.........and what it did to him ........ ---------------- Lyle Alzado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted December 11, 2004 Share Posted December 11, 2004 Alzado was all pro at one time. He blamed his subsequent brain tumors on his steroid abuse. Unfortunately, Alzado is not remembered, and if he is, players always believe it won't happaen to them. Steroid and other performance enhancing drugs are now a problem in high schools. Smaller children are going to their pediatricians and asking for human growth hormone. The kid is taught to inject himself daily. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 Lyle's story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lipinski Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 it's all about the $$$$$$ boys and girls. realize that the conversation is only about putting an asterisk on his record. nobody is talking about even fining Bonds. I heard a decent suggestion on a radio talk show yesterday. After every game (although this was in the context of basketball), everybody pisses in a collective bucket. They test the bucket, and if an listed drugs shows up in the bucket, the team loses the game that day!!! Forces the teams police the drug issue. Not a completely ridiculous idea. Certainly it would manipulate the way teams probably just don't ask if there star outperforms while suddenly having substantially more body mass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.4knee Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 never mind already been explained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBrennan Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I like the performence enhancers Babe Ruth used----2 steaks for dinner, buckets of beer, 10 hot dogs at a sitting and 2 trollops at a time in bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v3spitfire Posted December 12, 2004 Share Posted December 12, 2004 I think the only clean sport left is WWF. And Boxing. And the pure virginity of the Olympics of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 ---------------- On 12/12/2004 11:31:25 PM v3spitfire wrote: I think the only clean sport left is WWF. And Boxing. And the pure virginity of the Olympics of course. ---------------- Well, there's always Golf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 ---------------- On 12/13/2004 12:11:32 AM boomac wrote: ---------------- On 12/12/2004 11:31:25 PM v3spitfire wrote: I think the only clean sport left is WWF. And Boxing. And the pure virginity of the Olympics of course. ---------------- Well, there's always Golf. ---------------- I can't imagine anything that could enhance your performance in golf. Coupla beers, maybe... I had a buddy who shot an 83 while on shrooms, but we did have to help find his ball several times! He didn't miss a putt, though. Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Eh, anyway... back on topic. I think they should let these morons do whatever they want to their bodies. So, you want to take rhino growth hormones? Go ahead! So maybe you can hit 80 home runs. Oh, too bad you die a grotesque death at the age of 35. Funny how there's such a difference in how we view atheletes and regular drug abusers. They should bear the consequences of their decision just like we mere mortals do. The fact remains that there is a long history in human civilization of drug to facilitate achievement in a variety of applications. Peyote, LSD, pot, even coffee have been used as performance enhancers, with a varying degree of legality and acceptance. Who are we to judge as to the validity and morality of a substance's use? You know, none these meatheads put any food on my table. They don't deserve any more respect than anyone else that works for a living. I think this country needs to check it's priorities in regard to the way these hoods and punks are idolized and respected just because they can bounce a ball or swing a stick of wood. You want a role model for your kid? Look to your daily life, not the TV or football stadium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranha Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 ---------------- On 12/13/2004 12:35:47 AM bclarke421 wrote: ---------------- On 12/13/2004 12:11:32 AM boomac wrote: ---------------- On 12/12/2004 11:31:25 PM v3spitfire wrote: I think the only clean sport left is WWF. And Boxing. And the pure virginity of the Olympics of course. ---------------- Well, there's always Golf. ---------------- I can't imagine anything that could enhance your performance in golf. Coupla beers, maybe... I had a buddy who shot an 83 while on shrooms, but we did have to help find his ball several times! He didn't miss a putt, though. Unreal. ---------------- Sorry, but that's f_ckin funny!!!.... LMFAO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben. Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 You bet! My stomach hurt the next day from laughing so hard! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomac Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 Fact is, they know they cheated. Of course, maybe they don't care! Ah, yea they do. In the end, we all care. BTW, what are shrooms? I'm thinkin' short for Mushrooms which I think was/is a nickname for some hallucinagetic. Would they help my golf game? I need somethin' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
middlecreekguy Posted December 13, 2004 Share Posted December 13, 2004 ---------------- On 12/12/2004 11:31:25 PM v3spitfire wrote: I think the only clean sport left is WWF. And Boxing. And the pure virginity of the Olympics of course. ---------------- You got to be joking. Right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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