Budman Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Gary, if i recall chis kings corns are standard CDBR in cherry stain with the plywood edges exposed. you can check it out if you type in ( Decorator Corwall ) not Cornwall but Corwall, it was misspelled. i have 2 sets of Heresy decorators and one set of cornwall decorators in BR. your heresys and gregs work is stunning!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 yes Russ, but will glue hold it on the backside of grille, or will it bulge out around the front edge. I don't know how we are to get it oriented straight, pull it so it's tight, then get it tacked down and flat. LOTS OF CLAMPS from what I've seen, but think this will be the trickiest part. Take pixs as you go. I think the cane grilles are very handsome and more decor-oriented on the huge Cornwall faces. Perhaps other members would try this if it weren't so daunting a task. btw, isnt' the Corn the largest single piece of grille fabric used anywhere, anytime on a Klipsch product? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garymd Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Budman, I know his are stained CBRs but was just trying to make the point of how nice decorator corn's can look. Imagine a nice veneer instead! Probably not an easy task however. They really stapled the crap out of those older models. They're a b!tch to get off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 20, 2005 Share Posted February 20, 2005 Gary, those butt joints have to be sanded perfectly to veneer over them. Miters much easier. Besides, our aren't the 15-ply type. My 63's actually have some voids you can see in the back edge of port 'shelf'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 24, 2005 Author Share Posted February 24, 2005 Bump Ok, I've got my 84' CW1's now. I plan on making a new grill. There is candle wax on one of these. I want a complete new frame. From the above posts, I hear of a fabric from Duracrest for the grill cloth and I hear of 1/8 masonite for the frame. WHERE DO I GET THESE? Parts express has this for cloth....Is this Duracrest?...Is it anygood? http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?&DID=7&Partnumber=261-800 The construction should be simple. Looks like Klipsch loved the staples in the early 80's. The frame is stapled in the joints and velcro pieces are stapled to the frame. I think the staples were to hold the cloth and the frame as well. I'm sure there is some glue in there. There is also staples on the motor board holding velco down. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dflip Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Do a search for Duracrest fabric #17, I believe that jorjen and frzinvt both ordered from them. Duracrest is the name of the company, and they buy there fabric from wendell fabrics. Ralph is the name of the person to contact, I will dig up the phone number. The phone number for duracrest is (708) 344-4900, ask for Ralph, tell him that it is for a klipschorn, and you should be set. This is the a thread that deals with the black fabric, but not cane http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=61175. Wendell does make a synthetic cane. (http://www.wendellfabrics.com/cane2.html) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 your's have wood trim around the grill fabric? NEVER seen that. My 74's are just the black fabric wrapped around the 1/8" masonite frame and glued- looks like that spray 3m77 or simiilar, not hot melt. Your's would be CWII then, right? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Well, you guys will be mad at me. I got impatient afetr I asked about the Duracrest. I instead ordered the black "vintage" fabric from parts express. This weekend I made my grill frames with 3/16th Masonite. I painted them black yesterday. They look very good. I think as good as factory. I also made a template...so in the future...I won't need to measure. Just mark, cut and paint. The 1/8 inch masonite..I thought was too flemsy. I will post a boat load of pics once I get the project completed. Shouldn't be long. I must say, my template has different measurements than the ones chronicled in the thread "let's make a cornwall drawing". I have put my grill frames in the speaker, they are a perfect fit. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 Please post your dimensions on that thread if you don't mind. What genre and year are your Corns? Looks like they changed things from week to week (LOL) so hopefully it'll be handy to have em all on file. Are you using 3m77 spray glue on front and back edges to adhere the black cloth? I saw a photo where a guy used a dozen clamps to secure while glue dries. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 Yes, I will post my dimensions there. Gonna do the posting of the whole project once it is done. Yes, I got the 3M 77 glue spray from Parts Express. My Corns are unfinished birch with brown grills. One of the Grills has candlewax on it. The other in great shape. 1984 I think. B-3 crossover, K-77, K-57-k (I know this suks), and K-55-E. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 MSU grads can do anything. What's wrong with the K57's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 The K-57 is hard to replace. Bob states he has never changed out a diaphragm on one either. I'm just bummed because I hate to spend a lot of money on a new crossover and later not be able to replace a bad K-57. My B-3 or a new B-3 won't work with a K-55 from what I understand. The K-55 is "more available" and Bob can replace diaphragms. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted February 28, 2005 Share Posted February 28, 2005 What letters do you show on your corns "Y"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted February 28, 2005 Author Share Posted February 28, 2005 CBR SN 8512456 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 I am about to show a series of pictures and some measurements. Please don't criticize me for the size of the pics. I still have to put on the grill fabric. I will do that portion later this week. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Here is my measurements of an 84' Corwall grill template. This is a correction from a previous post. Thank you Budman. jc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Here is a piece of cardboard cut to the approprate Heigth and width. The markings are made for openings. The masonite I purchased is underneath. It was less than $10. There is enough there to make 2 pairs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 The openings were perfect. This matched up perfectly. These were the exact dimensions of my other factory grills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 Now that I have a template, I can make many more in the future w/o having to measure. Here is a pic of the 4 x 8 foot masonite with two grills marked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jwc Posted March 1, 2005 Author Share Posted March 1, 2005 I whipped out the Rotozip and made the openings. I then spray painted one layer on one side with flat black. They dried overnight and I brought back into the house. They fit perfectly in the cornwall leaving about ~1/16 inch around edges. Now I just need my grill fabric to come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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