ballenone Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 very simple question parasound A51 & A21 or one Cinema Grand Signature 400~seven channel ... what would be the diffrences between both pros and cons with my rf set up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyT Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I know MR McGoo has good results with sunfire. I'm sure he'll comment on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholtl Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I've never listened to Sunfire, so I can't comment on it's sound. Some say the sound is pleasantly warm. However, I do know that in terms of cost, space, and heat, the Sunfire beats Parasound. I own the A51 and A21, and the sound of it mated with Klipsch is absolutly phenomenal. For more info, check out these links: Club Parasound: http://www.htguide.com/forum/forumdisplay.php4?f=21 Parasound Halo reviews: http://www.parasound.com/halonew/reviews.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrMcGoo Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I have rarely heard Parasound, so I'm not qualified to comment on their gear. Their reputation with Klipsch speakers is excellent. As already stated, Sunfire has an advantage of a single box that runs cool as long as it get ventilation. More of its electricity goes to your speakers, less electricity goes to bias the amp. The Sunfire Signature amps are a cut above the regular Sunfires. They have bigger power supplies and more output devices per chanel. The bass is better as is the mid-range. The 2.8 ohm minimum impedance of my RF-7s is easy for the Sunfire Signature amps to drive. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spkrdctr Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 As an electronics guy, I vote for the Sunfire. I really like the engineering and technique used to supply the power. It is still fairly unique and worth every penny! I don't understand why it is not copied by every Japanese company... his patents must have expired a few years ago. It would not be all that expensive to copy the Sunfire for about half the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcuron Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 I will post info soon. I have the Sunfire theater Grand IV and Signature Amp 400x7 on it's way (maybe be here Saturday) as well as RF-7s arriving tomorrow. I can't wait to get it all set up and will let you know my thoughts. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurs Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 Sunfire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spkrdctr Posted July 7, 2005 Share Posted July 7, 2005 ---------------- On 7/7/2005 10:40:55 PM norcuron wrote: I will post info soon. I have the Sunfire theater Grand IV and Signature Amp 400x7 on it's way (maybe be here Saturday) as well as RF-7s arriving tomorrow. I can't wait to get it all set up and will let you know my thoughts. Mark ---------------- It will sound so good you will wet your pants! Remember, I told you.......... Be prepared for shock and awe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret_Salyer Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Wow! I thought I asked a similar question the other day and with fewer replies. Maybe my budget interfered or maybe I asked it wrong !? http://forums.klipsch.com/idealbb/view.asp?topicID=67602&sessionID={4F6892D8-8D0F-44D1-BCF0-05EE446389D2} Too late, I already bought something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmiles Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 What about the new PS AUDIO "gain cell" digital amps? These are of similar design to that of Jeff Rowland products. Note I said similar the difference is the gain cell technology being deployed by PSA. They are getting rave reviews overseas (soon to be reviewed in the US by some major mags, so I've been told). Might be a little pricey at: GCMC 250x7 = $7495.00 MSRP SCMC 500x7 = $9995.00 MSRP However I know where you can get a good deal Regards, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballenone Posted July 8, 2005 Author Share Posted July 8, 2005 sunfire seems to put out alot more wattage then parasound ..and im not sure about the cost difference between the two but if the sunfire puts out 400 wats a channel at all channels driven . i guess if the price was under what you have to pay for two parasound amps then i would guess its a open and shut case?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmiles Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 here's a sunfire for ya... http://cls.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?ampsmult&1125023590 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriton Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 Well, look for the threads on the SUnfire controversy...seems that pesky little Ohms law gets in the way of 400 watts per channel x 7 channels, with ...from what I understand of the math, that is impossible given the wall amperage coming into the unit... However, I bought one anyways! Love the whole coffee can story, dug the white-papers, and got a great deal from an internet scammer...so the rest is history...I love my TGIV and 400~7/RF-7 setup...it kicks rump boys, regardless of whether you like Carver or think he is nuts...I am just biding time to fill in the pieces of my reference system, and my next step is a killer sub... I got the Sunfire, because I am trying to avoid the up-grade-itis thing for a while...this thing, with 7 channels (and side axis channles for potential total of 9 channels) I expect I shouldn't have to upgrade a least the amp for a long time... My opinion of course. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Traveler Posted July 8, 2005 Share Posted July 8, 2005 I procrastinated and missed out on a good deal on a Sunfire 400/7 from a fellow forum member. Live and learn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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