formica Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Talk about going OT... but hey, it's Michael's thread and he do as he wants to. As for claiming digital photography as not being "art" is forgetting what art is. There was a similar resistance to photography itself not being considered "art" when it was initially comercialized, as it was for those who had "no talent" painting. But some artists adopted the medium all the same, and created visually pleasing images. I agree with DrWho's comparison to digital versus analog recordings. The artist has a vision, and how he chooses to reproduce it for you is part of the art. Each has it's characteristics, but that is part of the art. That doesn't make them a good / bad artist... they do that on their own. I've been to several photo expositions at "Le Musée d'art contemporain de Montréal" and both digital and analog mediums are well represented, all of them resulting in some pretty interesting images . Art is visual product... not the medium.... That being said, I'm another amateur photographer myself who shoots mostly 35mm B&W film whic i develop it my little darkroom. I like the look and feel of it, as well as working with the medium. Rob PS: BTW, it's a great time to buy analog equipment... so many people liquidating their stuff at rock bottom prices. Wish I didn't already have a darkroom... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted August 26, 2005 Share Posted August 26, 2005 Another thread TOTALLY HIJACKED and completely off the rails! To continue my rant: And any 8 year-old with a computer can do the same... Learning a keystroke isn't quite the same thing as deciding the exposure to use to get what you envision the same thing. One takes experience, skill and learning and most of all TIME. The other is a hand-eye thing and takes less than a second. Don't confuse manipulation with creativity, two different things. Analogy: just because you have an automatic nail gun, does it make the house you build with it a better design or more artful? NOT! It makes building it EASIER (that is, less time-consuming). Some things actually TAKE time to do correctly. Skipping that CHEAPENS it. P.S. YES, I have a digital camera. Like I said before, great for production, not for ART. DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted August 26, 2005 Author Share Posted August 26, 2005 dat's alright, it was my thread and I helped hijack it. No prob. bro. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyC Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Ok, this question may be from Way out in left field at this point, but when do we get to see pics of said painted cones? [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scriven Posted August 28, 2005 Share Posted August 28, 2005 Michael will publish no photo before it's time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted August 29, 2005 Share Posted August 29, 2005 And any 8 year-old with a computer can do the same... I'll agree to disagree photo editing is not that easy to do skillfully. I'm not talking about resizing or removing redeye. Same goes for painting and snapping pictures... which takes talent and a good eye. Anyone can use them (camera, paintbrush, photo-editing), but few people produce anything remotely artistic. Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 You wanted photos, we got photos. Here's the two K22 woofers as received from BSbutton. These babies were in decorator Heresy cabinets so they never had the protection of a grille cloth. Notice the extreme fading on the unit in the foreground. The other one had been 'sprayed', and had marks from that as well as a very thin place in the cone where the material had been wetted for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 These are the same two woofers after three light coats of the vinyl top coating described above. Look just about like new, don't they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 Here's a close-up. The vinyl coating is very thin and flexible, so I didn't even mask off the surrounds, just set em up and shot em a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 You could change the color depending on the mood you wanted to set. Have you noticed that the forum software resizes the images but the table/frame stays the same size as the original image? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 You could change the color depending on the mood you wanted to set. Have you noticed that the forum software resizes the images but the table/frame stays the same size as the original image? That's because your browser draws the size of the table statically and it cannot resize the image until the whole thing has been downloaded...then when the image finishes loading and resizes, there is nothing to tell the table to resize...I bet on a page refresh (when the images are already cached) that the tables go back to normal size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-MAN Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 They look blue, or is it just my monitor? DM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 8, 2005 Author Share Posted September 8, 2005 maybe it was the open sky light they were shot under or my scanner, I'll tweak em for ya. I played with the blue level and resized in photoshop. These are 640 pixals wide, saved as quality 6 .jpg for quicker screen draws. Think I'm getting the hang of this digital photography stuff. Think I might be switching soon.. To digital I mean, NOT THAT! geesh[] Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted September 8, 2005 Share Posted September 8, 2005 Colter, Great job and discovery, Klipsch bro! Hooked 'em up yet? BS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formica Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 maybe it was the open sky light they were shot under or my scanner, I'll tweak em for ya.Hey Michael those pics taken with your scanner? I've tried it with still life... but never anything as 3 dimensionally large as that. Pretty sweet...I'm not a photoshop guru (my girlfriend OTOH is), but versions 6 and higher has a "save for web" option, which I find produces better and smaller files (for posting) than the conventional quality slider. You should give it a try... Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted September 9, 2005 Author Share Posted September 9, 2005 FILM scanner. I have a Nikon CoolScan that I run my 35 mm film through- smartguy! I'm still on an older photoshop, but have learned enough features to tweak images. Image Adjust is the best thing going. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted September 9, 2005 Share Posted September 9, 2005 You could change the color depending on the mood you wanted to set. Have you noticed that the forum software resizes the images but the table/frame stays the same size as the original image? That's because your browser draws the size of the table statically and it cannot resize the image until the whole thing has been downloaded...then when the image finishes loading and resizes, there is nothing to tell the table to resize...I bet on a page refresh (when the images are already cached) that the tables go back to normal size. No cigar for you. IE will resize as the pages load, but Firefox will not, even with a refresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 wierd, I got it to resize at my friend's place who was using firefox...I'm in IE on my computers and ya it does resize for me. Oh the joys of cross-browser compatibility (ironically, the forum master browses in firefox). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stovebolt6 Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 My $0.02 Taking a picture on Film is like playing a musical instrument live. No way for error recovery. When done well its art! When done poorly its not. Taking a picture with digital is like playing a musical instrument in the studio. The sound is captured and laid down in some medium where a sound man (Not the original artist) edits, changes the texture and feel until satisfied. when done well, this too is art! When done poorly our high sensitivity speakers don't like it and neither do we. I think there is room in this world for digital photography. But I still appreciate an artist who gets it right without the safety net of the studio OR photoshop. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Looking pretty mint! And pretty cheap mod to boot! I am glad that you found the product performed very well for the intended purpose. Now all you have to do is to install them and hook them up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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