cyclonecj Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 It took me close to 2 years, but the Miramonte High School theater is finally going to have a great sound system. Here is the front of the theater. All 5 of the speakers over the atrium are coming down & will be replaced by three KI-362's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 The side walls will be getting three KPT-250's...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 How does the new set up sound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Other wall.......If you look close, there are 3 wall plates between the lights. The speakers will be just above the plates.... I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 19, 2005 Author Share Posted December 19, 2005 Wow... Your fast!!... I will let you know on thursday..... They start tomorrow morning. Look at the second pic, lower right corner. Thats a pallet of Klipsch Pro speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTTR Posted December 19, 2005 Share Posted December 19, 2005 That is a very nice theater for a school and it just got better with the addition of Klipsch. I can't even remember what my HS's theater in Venice, Florida used for audio, it wasn't anything special at all though, to be honest it was down right pathetic, they only had 2 speakers, on the left and right of the stage, given that they were pretty big, and horn loaded, but still pathetic. Any plans on running some Klipsch 18" cinema bass bins with that setup? That would be pretty sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 I know it doesn't sound like it, but money is limited. I only get so much every year to put into improvments & upgrades, as well as repairs. So we want to try the system with no sub for a while. For what we do, I think it will be ok. Anything will be a 1000% improvment over the speakers we have now. Also, the money for this speaker system was actually set aside 2 years ago. After this, I need to ask for a new CD player & some new cabinets. We just installed a new set of wireless mics, & they are sitting on top of the current wireless cabinet. I will also be asking for a digital surround processor & another amp to add to the patch bay. After that, if nothing else goes down, we may ask for the sub. It seems that everytime we put on a play or something, they come up with something else they want, so I put that on next years wish list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I still say that when using it for normal auditorium mode and speakers are PA configuration, you'll need delays for those rear channels or it'll sound like mush. In large spaces you need to have the rears delayed so that the sounds from the front and rear speakers reach the listeners ears at the same time. Please check with your contractor on this. The more banks of support speakers (side 'surrounds') you have, the more difficult this task. That's why large churches have a SINGLE large pod of speakers suspended over the congregations's heads splayed correctly so that everyone gets a single source of sound at the same volume. If you just use your front speakers, the first ten rows get blasted and no one in the rear can hear a thing. If you turn your surrounds on, everyone gets multiple sources at different distances and the sound gets ugly very quickly. Please check into how this setup will be wired. Or perhaps I'm missing something. Is there some fanatastic digital system being employed that can do your 'theatre special effects' discrete channels but still allow the speakers to be used for delayed voice PA system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 I was thinking the same thing! Get those bad boys on a delay circuit... Btw, I'm confused...is this a "cinema" or a "live theatre" or both? Perhaps the surround dsp to which you refer is the delay circuit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Readers of this thread, refer to http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/653873/ShowPost.aspxwhere cyclone gives thanks to Trey and Amy for setting him up with a vendor willing to design this setup with Klipsch speakers. The last few posts give details of the use of the theatre where special surround effects are mentioned.Personally I think this would take a major back seat to getting the timing for straight PA correct. Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 We only use the front center for voice & basic video, etc, & the front left & right for music. The room is small enough that we have never had a problem hearing from the front to the back rows.... The basic layout of the front speakers is not changing here...... just the quality of the speakers. The current ones sound like C$#p. Someone once described the sound as "buried underground". The new sides will be used ONLY for surround or special effects. We do have a TC electronics digital sound effects processor that we use all the time for plays etc. I'm sure we will be using this for some things. Also, the sides will not be hard-wired..... they will only be connected to the patch board, so we can use them for whatever we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Oh that's way cool. You guys are going to have so much fun mixing on that system - I know I would. What kind of mixer are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 We have a Midas Venice 320. EXCELLENT board, plus the fact that all of the controls are color coded, making for very easy training...... I will get a pic later... EDIT..... here is the pic...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 So you mean that for all those cabinets, for speech, you will be using only a single center cabinet? How many seats is that place? I can't imagine that solo cabinet will provide sufficient even coverage of the entire room. There are three bins up there currently, and those will be replaced with just ONE 362 at that position? Will that single 362 have the dispersion and levels of the existing three cabinets? What type are they? For sale? You do have three of the 362 bins, right? How far apart will they be when installed? Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 haha, all valid concerns but if you've ever mixed with a 362 you would know it's totally capable for the job [] The people on the far sides will certainly have some HF loss, but I've used speakers like this at outdoor concerts with 200+ people with decent results...it only gets easier when you go inside. Worst case scenario you can do a LCR mix and add just a touch of voices into the LR to help fill in the sides - and time alignment wouldn't be an issue because you would only be able to dial it in for a single position anyway. I've been in many churches with the same layout and they have good results too. Sure it's not ideal, but this is one of those times where it's usually good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted December 20, 2005 Share Posted December 20, 2005 Are those cabinets that good Who? Maybe we ought to get us a couple, you know for the rear delays for the outdoor concerts this summer. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 OK guys... Start your drooling......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 9 of them....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 pulling out the horn section to rotate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclonecj Posted December 20, 2005 Author Share Posted December 20, 2005 Horns rotated for the center channel....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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