Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 OK ... now seein' that i'm now a "scala owner and, that horns roll-off at 24 dB / octave and, seein' as I don't want to drag sub's around , too How Much EQ can I give to the La Scal bottom end ..?? I got Watts to burrrnnnn, Baby.............[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 What xover do you think they have? An AL-3 is 12db per octave at the LF and 12 db per octave at the MF, 18 db per octave at the HF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Here is AL-3 xover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 S/.F. the bass horn physically rolls off at 24/db/oct i'm wondering can i EQ 12 db @ 50 hz center w/o smokin' that eminence driver.... it ain't no 2240- K130 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 12 dB ... itsa LOT .....[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Lets say I have a DBX 2231 33 band eq.. Call it what you want.. I found a LOT of bass!!!!! hehehehehehee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Duke Spinner Here is spec's for k-43 from another thread, not sure where they got that power 400W rating from. Even if it could handle 400 watts, don't think it could handle +12 db eq boost at 50hz. The k-48 may be a better canidate. /////////quote//////// TSPs Fs 36 Hz Re 3.4 Ohms Qts 0.314 Qms 5.314 Qes 0.333 Vas 198.474 L Sd 0.089 m^2 Xmax 0.29 in BL 15.94 It is a 400 Watt woofer with a Sensitivity of 98.5 @ 2.83V/1M. Freq response is 45 to 3,500 Hz and has a 3 in voice coil. Hope this helps. ///////end of quote/////// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Give them a taste of the DBX 120X-DS forget EQ'ing in 12db, hit them with some subsonic synthesis! I use a 120X-DS along with a few other DBX "DS" pieces to improve the audio coming from my DirecTV receiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest " " Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Frzninvt Any idea how much SPL we can generate at 50hz before we cook the k-43? How close to +12 db some water stick math assuming 98db @1 watt spl. 98 db 1 watt +- 0 101db 10 watts +3db 103db 100 watts +6db 104db 300 watts +7db 106db umm, just cooked it, need to get a k-48 driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Give them a taste of the DBX 120X-DS forget EQ'ing in 12db, hit them with some subsonic synthesis! YOWSER ..... how quickly we forget what's in the Rack ..... Ya ....[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 Lets say I have a DBX 2231 33 band eq.. Call it what you want.. I found a LOT of bass!!!!! hehehehehehee dude .... how about a shot of that EQ curve .... mines Digital ... I can do what i want, Parametric, whatever with the YDG-2030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 OMG, Indy ..... lookit that Rack .... your system must Sound like Crap .... you know .... all that Crown, QSC..... Pro Sound stuff ...........[] [] [] [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 Mackie 1604z board.. JVC Karaoke Machine Alesis Digital effects DBX 2231 eq with compression The main amps// 2 of them are Mackie amps.. Pre china.. (silent and clean..) The crown amp is for the monitors.. This is my karaoke system. Yes, I use Klipsch speakers for that too. hahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 4, 2006 Author Share Posted August 4, 2006 oh, i see now thier mackies ... 1400, or what was that model ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyKlipschFan Posted August 4, 2006 Share Posted August 4, 2006 I think 1400, I will look later.. and they are very very clean too.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 5, 2006 Author Share Posted August 5, 2006 Mackie, Crown, QSC ... made a lot of fantastic amps before the designs were changed and production moved to china Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 Ya, the old mackies were real nice. Do they even still make them? I haven't run across one for like 8 years now (apart from Indy's rig, but that doesn't count) [] Btw, Duke...think of any EQ boost as reducing the peak output of the system. So if the lascala can do 120dB and you add 12dB of EQ, then don't go above 108dB. You'll always be safe using this approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvel Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I wish it were true that stuff made in China was awful, but not all of it is. Some of the Chinese manufacturing facilities are equal to the best in the world. The cost savings, of course, comes with the labor. We just got a new Allen & Heath console at school. Excellent build quality, along with the now too common 'Made in China' sticker on the back. In another area, I know someone who had a photo book printed in europe. The cost was less than getting it done here in the U.S., and the quality was superb. I think the printing was done in Belgium. They were even able to fly over a QC guy to check the work as it cam off the press, still giving a lower cost to the project. It's really the labot and politics of it that we probably really don't like. Bruce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJkizak Posted August 6, 2006 Share Posted August 6, 2006 I suppose we should have "purchased" China for our manufacturing base but it's too late now. JJK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted August 6, 2006 Author Share Posted August 6, 2006 I wish it were true that stuff made in China was awful, but not all of it is.. Bruce it's not the manufacturing... it's the design... the Crown XL amps are nothing like the previous stuff cheap power supply, cheap output stage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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