Groomlakearea51 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Edited to take into account the issue with the "megaman" toy attack on the K-24 woofer further discussed in this posting. I have just finished a long overdue "project" on refinishing an old pair of H-II's. [] After reading that Forum members have asked that anyone who is going to sell Klipsch speakers, to please post them to the Forum first before putting them on eBay, etc., it is so done as asked. These may be particularly attractive to a new member looking for a good pair of Heresy's and on a limited budget. IInterested folks can call me at 863-634-7038 (24/7) or email me direct at ocsosheriff1@okeechobee.com ________________________________________________________________ KLIPSCH HERESY-II, PR, HBR, EX-, REFINISHED Model HBR, Serial Numbers: 8559091 & 8559092 Manufactured in December 1985. Considered as one of the finest stereo speaker systems, the Heresy's have been in constant production since 1957. Condtion: (EDITED)Very Good (WERE EXCELLENT MINUS UNTIL THE MEGAMAN TOY STRIKE...). I am the second owner. Original owner finished them with an oil based rosewood stain, however, over time (21 years...) the stain had dried out, and the stain was losing it's natural dark hue; The original owner also had several corner "dings", and a few, almost undetectable scratches that were apparently filled at the time of his original staining. I have lightly sanded them (first with 220 & then with 300 with a random orbital finishing sander), and applied another coat of the original type of rosewood stain/finish.Cabinets and internal braces were inspected. Bracing is tight and the glue is not dried out, etc. Cabinets are "square", generally no seam or edge separations.Standard black grill cloth with the original copper emblems; Cloth is excellent. All of the grill cloth has been lightly cleaned with steam, and looks like new. The serial number sheets are intact, are factory stapled and glued on the rear of the speakers. Due to age, etc., there are imperfections and tears on these sheets. The serial numbers, etc., however, are clear. Drivers are original and (EDITED: with the one exception with a non-perforating gouge on one of the K-24 woofer coning material), are otherwise in perfect condition. Drivers were removed, inspected, and tested. Each driver was tested with a multi-meter for proper resistance, etc. Drivers are as follows: Bass: K-24-K; Manufacture Date Code 8540 (September 1985); Black Frame Midrange: K-53-K; Manufacture Date Code 8544 (late September, early October 1985); Midrange Horn: Plastic K-701's (Factory original type for H-II's) Tweeter & Horn Assembly: K-76-K; No codes shown Crossover: Standard Type H-II; No Numbers; Crossover Frequencies: 700/6000. I chose these particular Klipsch Heresy's for a project because (1) This pair of cabinets had an unusual wood pattern; (2) few "dings", very few scratches, (3) drivers were virtually perfect condition, and (4) other than a light re-staining to bring out the wood pattern, were in otherwise very nice condition. These are actually quite beautiful, especially in natural light, due to the aggressive (and unusual) grain patterns. The rosewood stain really brings out these patterns, particularly on the tops and the front edge banding. They appear to be almost like a "burl" in appearance, and the edge banding changes hue when viewed from different angles. Driver boards were redone with a fresh coat of textured flat enamel, and the drivers and crossovers were re-installed with new gaskets. Gaskets are a 20 mil thick, compressible Felpro material, rather than closed cell foam. The original foam gasket material was commercial "weather stripping" (per Klipsch Parts...). Unfortunately, foam weather stripping will deteriorate with age, and will eventually turn into a sticky mess.... Felpro material is flexible, does not decompose over time, and seals speaker drivers and cabinet enclosures very well. In addition, it can be removed immediately if you want to remove the drivers for refinishing, etc. I've used it on my Klipschorn's, LaScalas, etc., and it works perfectly. The speakers will also come with: (1) A complete, detailed, refinishing procedures instruction paper, just in case the buyer wants to finish them again with another stain, or veneer them. (2) A copy of the Klipsch Factory Heresy-II instructions I collect and refinish Klipsch speakers as my "WAF" (wife acceptance factor...) approved hobby. I do not make any money, profit, etc. I'm satisfied to only obtain my costs incurred during the project. I don't charge for "labor", or attempt to sell my Klipsch "project" speakers at whatever I think the "market price" will bear. This pair was my next project and the project is now completed. The the project cost - $326. Minus $50 for the "incident" yesterday with the K-24.... Packing is $22 for new styrofoam boards and new "dish" type heavy duty boxes from UPS. Shipping is, of course, dependent upon your location, as calculated by the eBay shipping calculator (which is very accurate), unless you pick them up. NOTES: POWER REQUIREMENTS, CARE AND CLEANING: The Klipsch Heresy's are a very efficient speaker. 1 watt at 1 meter will produce 96-97 decibels of sound...... Bottom line, you do not need a very "big" amplifier. Maximum amplifier input, per Klipsch, is only 100 watts. An amplifier with 70-75 watts per channel will be more than sufficient to drive them without getting arrested for disturbing the peace. Volume "4" out of 10 with a good quality 80 watt amplifier will drive your wife, kids, dogs, cats, large farm animals (and the neighbors) for cover .... The amplifier, however, must be of good quality, relatively low distortion and be able to produce peak power of at least 100 watts (RMS). Klipsch speakers are not only efficient, they also reproduce sound with absolute and brutal clarity. Poor amplifier quality, poor input source, crappy LP's, cassettes, CD's... you will hear it!.... Guaranteed!!... Owners should treat vintage Klipsch speakers as good quality furniture. They are made from furniture grade birch plywood. Klipsch Heresy's came (and still do) with various very high quality, furniture grade veneers. This pair, specifically, are birch plywood, with birch veneer. Originally they were classified as "unfinished" or "BR" (the "BR" in the model description means - Birch, Raw). They have been stained with a high quality, oil based, rosewood stain. They can be further stained and/or sealed to darken or change the hue to a more "reddish" or a more "golden" or brown color, dependent upon the interior decor of the room. A buyer with little or no experience in wood finishing should generally consult with a professional furniture refinisher, before applying different stains, or application of a final sealant (should be a high quality, commercial grade polyurethane, varnish, or clear laquer, etc.). They can also be re-veneered with other woods. Again, unless you are familiar with veneering, you should consult a professional cabinet maker or carpenter before doing this. You do not necessarily need to seal them, you can simply apply a very light coat of a quality furniture oil such as Watco Oil, tung oil, etc. every six months or a year. Over time, however, wood that is stained will tend to lighten, and oiling will protect the wood, and retain the hue. PURCHASING OPTIONS: OPTION - A. Bring your money order or bank cashier's check and pick them up in Okeechobee, FL 34972 (Directions will be provided if you so choose to do this). Prior to "turn-over", to you, they will be demonstrated. Bring a CD of your choice for testing; If you are not happy, then simply go home and keep looking. If you live within a 100 mile radius of Okeechobee, this is the least expensive way. OPTION - B. Send the Cashier's Check or Money Order with the packing & shipping costs. Packing is $22 as described and shipping is determined on your zip code from 34972. Calculate on a 18" x 18" x 24 box that weighs 51 pounds x two boxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipschaholik Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Got any pics? post some for us to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOCA_ME Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Does anyone know where I can download a manual for HWL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Haven't see online manuals out here in some time. The 'manuals' are somewhat lame anyways -- what do you want to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 First thing.... I have damaged one of the woofers while taking the grills off to take pictures; took the grill off, laid the speaker down on it's back, walked away to answer the phone, told everyone "don't go near it", and my 8 year old came and looked and dropped his "megaman" toy on the woofer cone; [:'(] Result: shallow gouge, approximately 1" long near outer edge at 8:00 o'clock position. After much crying on my part.... I removed it, checked, and applied some coning repair latex (from my old JBL 4311 days...) on the back side (just in case). It's dried, flexible, cannot detect any sound problems, etc. [] Result: Cosmetics, and I don't have a spare K-24. Solution; I am taking the pictures now, and will reduce the price from $326 to $275 just in case someone still wants them. I don't blame anyone for not wanting them now, and if no-one wants them, off they go on top of the bookshelves with the other HWO's for the living room. Oh well..... Eventually I'll find another good pair of K-24's, replace them (if you do one, you might as well do the other one...) and try this again. WAF comments: My wife said. "oh dear, but they still look so pretty".... [:S] Pictures will follow as soon as I can figure out how to load them on the forum.[:$] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted September 30, 2006 Author Share Posted September 30, 2006 First attempt at a "picture"; images are quite large, so if it does not work, email me at ocsosheriff1@okeechobee.com and I'll send them that way. The culprit is in the background in "time out".... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipschaholik Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 Try these steps. If it still doesn't work find the infamous Klipsch "Amy"; she has some miracle power that will allow you to post. Do these steps first save your image as a small Jpeg. to do this save the image in your "my pictures" folder. right click on the image and click the resize. pick the smallest setting and that will add a copy of the image in that folder as a small jpeg. then go to the thread and hit reply; next "click" options at the top of the thread "click" Add/Update "click" browse go to your my pictures folder and find the small image "doubl click" the photo Hit the "save" button then hit the "post" button only once "Don't preview the posting or it won't work Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Thanks on "how to do it"; I'm at the office right now, leaving to head home in a couple hours and will try it. Quick question, do you or anyone know the largest size a .jpg can be (or how small it has to be...) in order for it to work as an insert? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEC Posted October 1, 2006 Share Posted October 1, 2006 If your resizing program lets you specify the size, 640 for width works nicely. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Here is the first picture using the instructions: If it does not work, I'll try something different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 IT WORKED[] Note the edgebanding on the front; it changes hue as you move around. Second picture: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 #4, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 On #4 you can see where the megaman toy hit the cone material; #5 of 6 below Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 6 of 6; photos were taken with a Nikon D-1 and the original images were 650k+, so I had to resize them down to less than 35k (avatar size) to get this to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 1, 2006 Author Share Posted October 1, 2006 Special Thank You to Bob Crites and Klipschaholic for helping me figure this out. We're real rural down here and I "don't get out much" with this advanced computer stuff.[:$] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 2, 2006 Author Share Posted October 2, 2006 Thanks to all who looked at them; my wife just walked in and said that she likes them, so I will comply with "she who must be obeyed", locate a k-24, and keep them for now. Much appreciation again for everyone who looked at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Button Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 You wanna sell the D-1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipschaholik Posted October 2, 2006 Share Posted October 2, 2006 Aahh, your wife is a wise woman; hold on to her for she knows a good thing when she sees it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groomlakearea51 Posted October 3, 2006 Author Share Posted October 3, 2006 For BS Button - At the expense of having my fingers cut off, the answer would be no: It's my wife's backup camera.... The older D-1's (of which this is one) are pretty cheap now (relatively anyways...), go to keh.com; you can find them for about $350-$450. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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