Mighty Favog Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Their prices seem pretty decent for Cornwalls ($3k / pair shipped). Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill H. Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Tom, I search there "website" and could NOT find a Physical address. I don't get a warm fuzzy feeling about them........... Send the site to Klipsch, and ask them. Bet they are bogus, which will get Klipsch to jump all over them! The Price is in line with New MSRP........but I think they are strickly a web address.........with NO support, after the sale! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 That's what I thought. Thanks Bill. Sending it off to Amy right now. I'm even seeing pictures of stuff they don't even carry. I.E.- McIntosh in upper right corner and a pair a (I think) Yamaha NS-500M's from, what, 20 years ago?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 At best they are an unauthorized dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 O.K., found their mailing address anyway....it's "Our adress: P.O.Box 330225 Midwood, NY 11230 sale@avdepot.net ". All someone has to do is call the post office in that zip code and ask who paid for the p.o. box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duke Spinner Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 the Post Office won't tell you anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipsch4life Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Heresy III's for $594.00 ea? My Klipsch dealer here in Hot Springs is charging $750.00 ea... KG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Heresy III's for $594.00 ea? My Klipsch dealer here in Hot Springs is charging $750.00 ea... KG about a 20% discount. Would that be about right for an online retailer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 In looking at their site, I asked myself, why would they be selling "Russian watches" in the first place AND after looking at the watches, why would they be selling Russian watches made by Polk audio, Paradigm, Marantz, Pioneer car, Akai and others????? I quit looking after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted November 6, 2006 Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2006 Definitely NOT authorized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Interesting enough. One can pretty much tell by looking at an outfit's presentation on the web if they are authorized or not. This one just looked scuzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriton Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ok, tell me how this works - Klipsch has "authorized" dealers, and those dealers purchase speakers at wholesale, right? They are required by their purchaser agreement to only sell at a certain price, etc., but they can guarantee Klipsch customer support - The speakers are all serial numbered, which should make tracking them an easy affair. SO, how does an "unauthorized" reseller get their hands on these speakers? Surely they aren't buying them at retail cost and then reducing them -20% just for giggles - they are obviously purchasing wholsesale from somewhere - which only leaves two possibilities - a) They are buying them from "authorized" dealers after those dealers purchase a big lot of speakers - a secondary market as it were, make a bit on each unit sold wholesale plus - OR Klipsch is selling these speakers directly wholesale to anyone who orders them, but only will give support to those folks who are on their "authorized" dealer list - but in that way sell more speakers. Now under scenario a), it would be rather impossible for the company to say what is and what isn't an authorized seller's speaker, as the serial numbers would only be traceable to an "authorized" dealer - and who could say where they went from there, if they kept the paperwork intact? Yet, when you call Klipsch customer service, they can pretty much tell you from the serial number, whether the speaker is grey market or from the authorized dealer, can't they? Why keep serial numbers if not to maintain inventory lists and distribution data? Or do they just ask where you purchased them from, or require a receipt from an authorized dealer? So it seems more likely that scenario is the answer, downplaying the obvious bite that it would otherwise cutting into the "authorized" dealers, by not offering support of nay kind, but selling them cheaper because of it? These unauthorized sellers on the Bay and elsewhere have been around for a long time and they apparently receive and sell al ot of grey market Klipsch stuff - new stuff too, so doens;t that just kind of negate the whole "Klipsch will get all over them" thing? Further, what kind of premium does the authorized dealer pay for the Klisch "service" over just straight, take your chances, wholesale lot? From the trip to AK, we saw that Klipsch has relatively low failure rate in production quality, so woudn't the gamble that service wouldn be unnecessary on the big speakers be a good one? Am I missing something here? Just thinking out loud on Monday morning. Don't send the Klipsch commandos after me, really. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted November 6, 2006 Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2006 a) Yes No I have no idea how they "police" the authorized dealer to keep them from reselling to these online guys--what the steps are, how they are discovered, how they are disciplined--I'm not privy to any of that. I'm sure it can be tricky, but I just don't know. But we absolutely do not take orders from unauthorized dealers in any way whatsoever. If they don't have an account set up with us, they cannot buy. And if they don't have an account=they are not authorized. We are very strict with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ve vill be arriving at your door shortly, Herr Kriton, er Mr. Kriton. I think there are other means of determining the serial number other than the factory name badge also. So if 'gray market' items do require servicing, the buyer from questionable sources may be out of luck. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kriton Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Guter Nachmittag, Kamerad Colter! I just don't understand why it would be so difficult for Klipsch to shut this practice down if they really wanted to, and I do not understand how they would be able to differentiate between grey market and authorized dealer sold speakers - despite what Colter says, even though they probably have little alien homing devices under the evil bucking magnets that watch you from the tuning ports... Authorized dealers buy more speakers than they can move in order to maintain their authorized sales label, and secondarily sell to the grey guys - I can understand that - but wouldn't it be as easy for a company mole (such as Amy-no offense) buying a pair of cheap speaks from the grey guys, getting the speakers in, and tracking down the serial numbers to the authorized dealer leaking these speakers? But what the hell do I know...I may be just wacked into thinking Klispch really turns a blind eye to this, as I can't even figure out which speaker cable to use Anyways, just curious - didn't mean to hijack the thread - just musing on this lousy Monday. K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Amy Posted November 6, 2006 Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2006 Maybe catching them isn't the problem. It's stopping them? Maybe there's a loophole in their 50 year old dealer agreements that allows this to go on? Maybe the authorized dealers actually OWN the "discount" online resellers, but use a different name? Or maybe most of our dealers do it, and if we canceled all their accounts, we'd be out of business? I don't know what the answer is, but it certainly isn't encouraged or condoned by Klipsch. We have people working on stuff like this all the time. Mabye BobG can hop on to this thread and shed some light. He's much more involved in that side than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colterphoto1 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I'll 'secret shop' for Klipsch any day. M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klipsch4life Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I would like to order (2) pair of Brazilian Rosewood Heresies for $594.00 please... I would like to be authorized to do this....I will fill out the grey market form...I would like cane grills...I would like a pair of 60th Anniv. Khorns for $6,000.00 please. I won't tell a soul, honest....I'll do without the warranty...I'll drive to Hope and pick them up at the back door....Amy??AMY???? KG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellisd Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 It looks to me like the AVDepot is still selling the Klipsch line and this thread is 2 years old. Their prices seem to be about 60% of MSRP so, even without a warranty you could buy a replacement when something goes wrong and still just about break even assuming you dont have more than 40% of your speakers go bad. If you do, well, then that is another problem. I also see a ton of suspicious ebay offerings, new and open box. I would like to remain loyal given the fact that Klipsch has been so easy to work with, but it is awfully tempting. The THX Ultra2 is calling me....... They have KL-650's cheaper than the KL-525. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellisd Posted June 16, 2008 Share Posted June 16, 2008 Well, at least they are "honest", here is the response I got when I asked. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no we are not auth.dealer but we take them from auth dealer dennis 1968georg@gmail.com Dennis Coperman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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