rbfactor Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I currently have a KV2 center speaker but it seems hard to understand dialogue while watching DVD's. I am starting to think that the KV2 just isn't enough speaker for my set-up. Any opinions on the KV2 and/or suggestions for a better center speaker?? Perhaps a KV3 (I've seen a few on Craigslist). I am using a Denon 2802 receiver. Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 The ideal and perfect timbre' matched center for your system is the KG 2.5V or a KG 2.5 if you do not have a CRT based TV. However, if your really after perfection a third KG 5.5 is the best possible arrangement if you could shoehorn it in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted February 19, 2008 Moderators Share Posted February 19, 2008 I am using a KV-3 with CF-2's and it has excellent dialog. I will soon be upgrading to the RC-64 as I get ready to move towards an RF-83 setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardP Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I currently have a KV2 center speaker but it seems hard to understand dialogue while watching DVD's. I am starting to think that the KV2 just isn't enough speaker for my set-up. Any opinions on the KV2 and/or suggestions for a better center speaker?? Perhaps a KV3 (I've seen a few on Craigslist). I am using a Denon 2802 receiver. Many thanks! Are you sure that your speaker level settings on your receiver are correct? The way to set such levels with accuracy is to use a sound pressure level (SPL) meter, about $40 at Radio Shack, which will show the relative volume settings of each speaker. Your receiver should have, under some setup menu, options for setting the levels using a built in pink noise generator (produces a SSSSHHHHH tone in each speaker individually in sequence). You want each speaker to produce the same output level of that tone. Perhaps your center is just not set high enough (or it may require setting the L and R speakers lower, to match the center). My apologies if you have already done this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 KLF-C7. Is big, plays big. Note horn in C-7. Note horn in other smaller center speakers. Think wide dispersion. I used a KV-2 for years with KG5.5's. Got a C-7 and was much happier, still not completely happy. While the KV speakers might be a little lacking the C-7 is overkill. If the adjustments Richard suggested isn't enough you might try a C-7. To me the cost isn't worth it. The KV's were the centers designed for the KG towers you know? Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbfactor Posted February 20, 2008 Author Share Posted February 20, 2008 I have adjusted the center channel level but the KV-2 always sounds somewhat muffled. I think the horn may be the problem, which means the KV-3 wouldn't be much of an improvement (since it uses the same tweeter). I would like to upgrade but can't justify the huge cost of something at the C-7 level. RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 The KV series center(s) were NOT designed to go with the X.5 series, that is what the KG 2.5V is for just as the KG 2.2V wsa designed to work with the X.2 series speakers. The KV line was developed for the CF (1,2,3 & 4) Epic line. A KLF-C7 won't timbre match at all with the X.5 series. Stop spreading misinformation. They won't sound bad they just won't match the timbre' of the mains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 The KV series center(s) were NOT designed to go with the X.5 series, that is what the KG 2.5V is for just as the KG 2.2V wsa designed to work with the X.2 series speakers. The KV line was developed for the CF (1,2,3 & 4) Epic line. A KLF-C7 won't timbre match at all with the X.5 series. Stop spreading misinformation. They won't sound bad they just won't match the timbre' of the mains. Well, smart guy, when I bought my KG5.5's in 1994 the only available center channel speaker, as such, for KG floorstanders/bookshelves was the KV line. All the KG line speakers, down to the KG .5 were designated in Klipsch literature printed at that time as for use as front or surround speakers. Check your Klipsch KG literature, I just did. You may also want ot reference this http://www.klipsch.com/products/discontinued/details/kv-2.aspx . The KV-4 was actually the correct center for the 'Controlled Focus' series http://www.klipsch.com/products/discontinued/details/kv-4.aspx although the Epic literature doesn't even mention a dedicated center channel speaker. I just checked my Epic literature too. There is no Klipsch speaker that will perfectly timbre match KG5.5's for center channel duty. I tried them all. I offered my suggestions based on experience with all mentioned speakers. Again, I would use a KV-2/KV-3 or buy other speakers. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Downriver Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I have the same setup. I tried a KV-2 and also found it somewhat lacking, but I'm happy with the KV-3. I may be mistaken but I believe the KV-3 is more sensitive at 95db than the KV-2 and a closer match to the KG 5.5's $.02 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frzninvt Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 "There is no Klipsch speaker that will perfectly timbre match KG5.5's for center channel duty. I tried them all. I offered my suggestions based on experience with all mentioned speakers. Again, I would use a KV-2/KV-3 or buy other speakers." Sure there is another the KG 5.5 is the perfect match! The user manual/brochure I had for the KV-4 also listed the KV-1, 2, and 3 in it. The KG 2.5V was most certainly the correct center speaker for the X.5 series. The website is not correct. Just because your dealer did not have it or it was not in the brochure at the time doesn't mean it wasn't available. I suppose you are going to tell me that the KG 2.5V were designed to be a bookshelf speaker and not a center. I suppose the bucking magnets attached to the woofers on them to minimize EMI were put there to weight the speaker down to keep them on shelves or stands. I don't care what you use honestly but I can assure you that the KG 2.5V will outperform the KV-2 or KV-3 and match better with the X.5 series speakers unless you get a speaker identical to your mains which would be optimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardP Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 It seems about three weeks ago someone else was asking the same thing, and I suggested using any of the smaller KG x.5 models (2.5, 3.5, 4.5), turned on their side. The 2.5V is the only video-shielded model, obviously designed as a center, and is horizontally symmetrical (2 woofers on either side of the tweeter). But unless you have a CRT type TV, the lack of shielding in those other models won't affect the TV. Depending on the exact placement, they might not even affect a CRT TV. You can also install the bucking magnets on the woofer of the nonshielded models fairly easily. The only problem is that you don't see the KG x.5 series for sale on Ebay and other usual sites as often as the KG x.2 series. Depending on your budget, I might even try any model from the x.2 series, as most can be had for less than $200/pr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 The small exponential horn is basically useless for center unless you and everyone else sits almost exactly on center. You can move either left or right of center by just a couple of feet and easily witness the ouput taper off, shielded or not. Try it. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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