SWL Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 Interesting........maybe all my Crown amps hooked up to the ceiling fan would work?[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 To get all the content on the movie or CD that you paid for. Spectraplus is a nice handy software download ( 8.5 mb ) for 30 days ( trial ) that will let you analyze your media to see what content is in it. Here is a jpeg of a screen shot ( Disturbed "Just Stop" opening riff ) that has a high level ( 0 db ) burst at 35 hz. There is content MUCH lower than that. I get -23 db at 12.57 hz. Audible? Not really, even with peak levels at 120 db or higher, 12.57 hz would be in the neighbourhood of 95 db, but you should definately FEEL it. Not to mention it takes a HECK of a lot of cone area and amplifier power to get this low this loud without compression, and massive distortion. Pro-sound systems roll off the low bass during playback to protect speakers and conserve amp power. Which is more accurate, the live recorded event before going through a HP filter or after? Food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Soon I will have massive output down to single digits. Massive amp power...check,many capable drivers...check. Lots on money invested...double check. Myself I am a HUGE sub fanatic. Check[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael hurd Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Arthur you know we are the exception to the rule... about as non-mainstream as they get. If you can't buy what you want you have to make it. I mean come on, how many people have a 30 kw touring grade amp set-up in their home... LOL or apartment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Me normal....[:S] 30KW...and growing! The electrician told me "YOU ARE CRAZY" no more lines...the wiring would have to be redone,I think I will slow down. And now the build starts officially this Sunday. I will post a few pics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 I have my sub so i can drown out the front speakers,This way i have something to complain about to the wife ,to get new front speakers.[] 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 30, 2008 Share Posted April 30, 2008 ...........So I can tell people how my stereo makes my walls ...........To try and acheive a "Live Sound" ...........To make my speakers sound better ............I just like the sound of deep, chest pounding, back massaging, thunder rolling, kick your *** bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted April 30, 2008 Author Share Posted April 30, 2008 I almost fooled myself the other day by thinking that my speakers sounded so good that they didn't need a sub......well they don't need a sub.......they need FOUR subs.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNRabbit Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I have another option. You use your sub to play the lowest freq.that most speakers can't reproduce,certainly not with authority. Or,your last option. Exactly. Precisely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators dtel Posted June 24, 2008 Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2008 For the people that think you don't need a sub for 2 ch,....with a sub set correctly listen then turn it off, if you don't hear a difference you either listen to music with no lower bass or something is set wrong, it's there. For those who think you don't need a sub for movies,...you are just fooling yourselves ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Actually, I need my sub now to hold my HDTV because I can’t move my 36” tube TV by myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEAR Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Yes I need a sub woofer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean5340 Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Some of the hi-fi mags even state that a good bottom end makes for a more natural-sounding midrange as well. I agree, the mids are sweeter with the sub. I find a big improvement in piano and strings. When it comes to rock I like to feel the thump in my chest. Way closer to a live performance with a sub. So for me it's to make it sound more "live". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 Yes I need a sub woofer... Atta Boy...........enuff subbage for the whole neighborhood. [Y] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAS Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 Why? Because I don't think music or movies are heard until they're felt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrWho Posted June 28, 2008 Share Posted June 28, 2008 I get -23 db at 12.57 hz. Audible? Not really... For what it's worth, complete masking is classically considered to kick in at -20dB. I think I've got an article around here somewhere... So in your spectral-time plots, I wouldn't consider anything below -20dB to be of any significance....even at higher frequencies where we know it should be more audible. It sounds boring this way, but I use a subwoofer to faithfully reproduce the source material. I don't use it as an effects box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted June 28, 2008 Author Share Posted June 28, 2008 I use a subwoofer to faithfully reproduce the source material. I don't use it as an effects box.I guess I would say that I use it as an "enhancement" box. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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