cruzin4life Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 If i got a full 7 channel reciever would i be able to opt to instead of using the side surround or back surround.... and "tell" it to send the same signal the main left and right get? If ony has an idea or seen anything like it please help me out. i would looking at a 980 watt yamaha but, i was unsure if the firm ware would would allow such a routing of the signals... any info or models or a spesific name of a feature would be greatly spreaciated. Trying to geta decent amount of power for KG 4s KG 2.5s for main left right KG 1s and 1.5s rear surround....Think little bose cubes only klipsch bookshelf speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 I don't think any receiver will do what your asking ................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schwock5 Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 if what you mean is taking 2 channel stereo and sending it through all the speakers, then yes, I believe all current recievers have it. 5-channel and 7-channel stereo option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 20, 2008 Moderators Share Posted April 20, 2008 I have seen in the forums that some have used their rear speaker outputs to bi-amp their front speakers. I don't believe this increases the power to them, it just provides a separate amp for the highs and lows of your main speakers. I do not think this is what you are trying to achieve though. If you need more power, you might want to consider adding a separate 2 channel amp to them if your receiver has pre-outs for an external amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 If I understand his question ............... He wants to route the side/back surround output as output from the front mains ... I don't believe that is possible ... side or back surround is called "presence' speakers on a Yamaha .......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 With most AV receivers, other than fairly high-end ones, the total power is a bit of a fiction. 140 watts x 7 channels doesn't equal 980 watts if all are driven at the same time. The power supply seems to be the bottleneck. You may get only 70 watts per channel when driving all 7 channels. However, when driving only 2 channels, you may get well over 140 watts to those 2 channels. When driving 2 channels, it may put out not 140 watts, but more like 190 or 200 watts. The good thing is that Klipsch speakers don't need huge amounts of power to play loud enough for most people. If after listening for a while, you decide you need still more power, it's easy to add a power amp, either stereo for just the main speakers, or multi-channel to drive all the speakers. It would be connected to the receiver's pre out connectors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Posted April 20, 2008 Share Posted April 20, 2008 My Onkyo 805 will let you send main LR out of the back surr speaker outputs(for biamp).I'm pretty sure newer Denon and others allow the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 20, 2008 Moderators Share Posted April 20, 2008 Yeah I thought some of the newer units could do that. But he's wanting to actually increase the wattage going to his front speakers and I don't think any of the receivers can do this. Separate amp is probably what he will have to do to get more juice to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddy Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 If I'm reading correctly the OP is not asking about sending more power he is asking about sending the signal that the mains get to all channels. Yes it is possible and quite easy to do. When you are listening to music on a stereo or mono signal you switch the processor to 7 ch enhanced and it plays all 7 speakers. I prefer my 2 channel to come out of 2 channels but yes its possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Youthman Posted April 21, 2008 Moderators Share Posted April 21, 2008 would i be able to opt to instead of using the side surround or back surround.... and "tell" it to send the same signal the main left and right get...a decent amount of power for KG 4s KG 2.5s for main left right... I don't think that is what he is trying to do. From what I can see, he wants to use the "power" from the side or back surrounds to boost the power to the front speakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdaddy Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Ok, we're confused. Are you wanting to route the power of the surround channels to the front? Or are you trying to route the 2 channel signal to all speakers? If that is the case then yes it's easily done. As far as sending the power of the surrounds to the mains, the only thing I know like that is on Yamaha receivers that have a 2 zone option you can use the 2nd zone to bi amp the speakers in question. I've been told this really has little or no benefit. From what I've gathered, most receivers have a single power supply and route power to each channel as needed. The higher end units have seperate power supplies for each channel but your getting into some serious money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldbuckster Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Without a clearer explanation of just what he wants to do ................. NO, you can't send surround signals to the mains, you can cancel the signals, but not send them .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzin4life Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Sorry for the confusion. I have a 5.1 system, but with a set of KG 4s and 2.5s for Main L/R. I am wanting to have one 7.1 unit drive all speakers but send the main L/R singnal to both. 5.1 Decoding but the spare two channels for rear not being used for the 2.5s getting main L/R signal. so im trying to turn a kg 4 and kg 2.5 into one speaker i guess withouth having to keep using two 5.1 recievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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