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I just moved my Scott system from the basement upstairs to the livingroom. Now, when I turn off the Scott it pops loudly through the speakers. I don't think I had this problem when the system was set up downstairs. I would have noticed. All I have connected right now is a CD player directly to the amp, and a pair of corns. The Scott is plugged into an extension cord and then into a surge protector. My TV and HT system are all sitting about 3 feet away from the Scott and are all plugged into the same surge protector as the Scott if that matters. Craig you are getting this amp anyhow as we discussed. But this problem just came up and is annoying. Don't want to hurt the corns. The system is quiet accept for a minute buzz that's always been there (I know what that is). It's only a problem when you shut it off. Thanks for any help.

To the board, Just picked up some Blonde Oak Heresys off EBay and am looking for the date of manufacture. I had bought a pair just like them in 1980 and traded them for some cornwalls a couple of years later (1980 corns, not the ones listed below). So, I saw, wanted, and got lucky. Serials, 126W669 / 126W670. Also, one has the Klipsch logo missing. How do I get a pair of original logos for the grills? While I'm at it, I also need a pair of PWK logos for my decorator cornwalls (below). Looking for the original Cornwall PWK logos. What's the best way to get these 4 logos? Thanks

I use an old Soundcraftsman 3rd octave EQ. Don't know the model # (at work). It is OLD. Over the years I have maintained it by cleaning it carefully. I recently got a rebuilt Scott amp and tried the system with and without the EQ. I can make the system sound better with the EQ. No doubt you need to know how to use the unit. The LAS show up noise easily as we all know. I still say I have better sound with the EQ. (I also can purposely misuse the EQ and get noise and distortion.) I guess I am using it for both room compensation and higher resolution tone control. I have used various models of Klipsch speakers for the past 26 years (all Heritage), and have never been without an EQ. Growing up, everyone I knew that had Klipsch speakers used an EQ as well. The variety of source material alone can be a reason to have one. You very high end guys don't seem to agree, but that's fine. I'd love to hear some of your sytems. I'm sure I'd be impressed. At some point, just like everything else, it cost big bucks just to achieve small incremental improvements. All ears being equal, it's all relative to how much we spend to get to that next increment. You asked, so I'm telling ya, I use one. I know lots of people that do.

Does anyone know if the DBX 231 is a decent unit? It appears to be just the basic 31 band 2 channel unit. Any ratings?

For what it's worth I have experienced the same issue with my Las and corns (see models/years below). When I got my Scott 299 recently I connected a Las and Corn in parallel on each channel. I started fooling with the phase reversal switch and got weird sounding results that really bothered me. It sounded like an improvement and a degradation simultaneously (if that's possible). I disconnected the speakers and ran 1 pair at a time. The Las were perfect and sounded worse with phase reversal. The corns sounded better with the phase reversed, not as good in phase. Well, that led me to tear down the corns and check every connection possible. There was nothing wrong. Here's how I fixed it. The problem went away after repositioning the corns in the room. I was very surprised about this, but I only needed to move one of them about 18 inches. I have a large room and have a las and corn on each side. I moved the corns a little further apart. That's all. I have since obtained an additonal Scott amp and now run the corns off it (1 external preamp into 2 scott amps). What puzzles me about your situation is that I assume you are actually seeing the sine waves out of phase as monitored by the mikes at each driver. Is that right? Are the mikes the same distance from each driver?

I also just acquired a recently rebuilt 299a off Ebay. This was the amp that caused all that BS. I had been in touch with Craig about it and he was kind enough to call me long distance (on his dime) and spend roughly 2 hours total over a couple of days helping measure all the critical voltages in the amp, and checking the bias. I would have just sent him the amp, but I forwarded him some digital pictures of the chassis and he commented that it looked good to go. So we just did the checks to be sure. This is nobody's business, but Craig did not ask for a dime, and over a couple of hours provided me a complete refresher course in tube electonics and professional instruction with safety in mind. This had to be a pain for him, but he said NOT to send him the amp because it checked out OK. The cans were beefed up with under chassis caps instead of being replaced and Craig commented on that point. But I'll say this. The amp came from Mike Urban (an antique radio restorer). He's on the web. I have tested it thoroughly and played the hell out of it (carefully). I have respect for the vintage nature but trust me I have used this thing. The bias was slightly off, and Craig helped me correct it. I have noticed it definitely runs a little cooler now. The sound has to be near perfect as it could be. Impressive! No hiss, no hum, speakers are completely silent between tunes. Nice work by Mike Urban and an accurate representation of the unit on EBay. And Craig provided his expertise and honesty to help me verify the unit before I tried it. Anyhow, my comments were that there is no tape monitor loop which made it impossible to use my equalizer. There were not enough inputs for all my equipment either. I too was unsatisfied with the combinations achieved with the channels tone controls and / or loudness. But, the clarity of the amp is superb. So, here's what I did. I used my old preamp and left all my components connected to it including the EQ. Preamp out into tape in on the Scott. Problem solved. Now I have the benefit of my EQ which I felt was essential. I run the corns and Las in parallel on 4 ohms (not really recommended) use the loudness switch with a hair of EQ and a volume of about 9 - 10 o'clock. When I really want it to play, I turn off the loudness switch and go to around 11 - 12 o'clock. I've never had it past there. My inital tests of the amp were progressive on the volume timewise until I hit 12 o'clock over an hour or so. Then I popped 5 CDs into the changer and periodically checked things closely. After 6 hours like that I knew the amp was a good one. It continuously sounded great. I also recently purchased a 222b. I haven't checked it out yet, but looks like a candidate for a fresh rebuild. Craig will be receiving that one soon for an auricap job (so get the parts ready!). Then, I can run the preamp outputs into each amp, and have one pair of speakers on the 222 and one on the 299. I know that will be much better because some of my intial tests were done at 8 ohms with just Las. That was very sweet. So far, that's been my experience with the new 299. Hopefully, when I get finished I will still have $$ for Christmas. Hurts so good.

Guys, Glad to hear some of these comments. I never meant to bad mouth Klipsch. After reading all the comments, I have to say that I did not do a price for price comparison between brands. My fault. I mostly just listened. I was interested in comparing sound. I suppose the Bose probably cost more, so would be expected to sound better. Besides, I think it was "Village People" music playing on the Best Buy systems. Maybe that's why the Klipsch didn't sound so good. I heard "In The Navy" rocks on KLF-30s.

Awesome setup! But where's the beer fridge?

While it may not be practical, I agree that Klipsch should have a factory field representative be responsible for their demo equipment at authorized dealers. I could not see any amplification equipment at our Best Buy (Athens, Ga.). But the set up were pretty nice. They had a switching console that selected each speaker product. They had a bank on the console for the HT systems in the room. They also had subwoofer switching. Maybe there was a junk amp involved. Maybe Bose sets their own up to sound a certain way. Probably not! But maybe Klipsch should. Whatever. It sounded surprising to me. I figured the Synergy line was better than I heard. Sorry, but it was poor. I should have probably not been so harsh with the comments though. I know there are alot of satisfied RF users out there. And I know those do compare to the competition.

Just a comment. Last night I was in Best Buy. Hadn't been there in a couple of months. I was happy to see a dedicated Klipsch listening room (synergy only). There were also dedicated Bose, JBL, SONY, and misc. listening rooms. I must have spent about an hour checking out all the 2 CH. and HT offerings from each company, switching in and out of all the speaker systems. I have to call an Ace an ACE. Synergy products just don't have it. I tried playing with all the adjustments, stepping the KSWs in/out. In every case Synergy was beat by all the others. I have never been exposed to the Synergy product line before, and anyone who knows me knows I have been a dedicated and huge Klipsch fan forever. Since I am in marketing myself, I understand. But it's a disappointing situation. The reality is that everything since the Heritage series seems to have been a step down. Sorry. Love Klipsch.

I hope the Natuzzi furniture doesn't catch anything that can't be washed off.

Ryan, Thanks for the informative comments. I am surprisd to hear that the 222A compares to the 299s I read that everyone buys. I suspected the power difference wouldn't hurt my system any, so I went for it after careful reading. I just hope it arrives soon. Testimonials like yours are what gets me really excited about this unit. Thanks again.

Guys, I was answering Craig's post and a bunch of you beat me to the submit button. Obviously, I was joking around. But seriously, I saw the amp myself on EBay today. I had just bought a 222A the day before, researched the entire Scott product line up. So, I new what it was. And I know all you guys buy the 299s and not the 222s so much. I read on this forum alot. What I don't know yet is what great pricing is on these classic products. I'm here to learn and share what I can. I'm here mostly because I share the passion for this Klipsch hobby like you all do. And after 25 years have discovered a way to get a whole new sound and performance out of my speakers with these tube amps. (I actually bought a new Classic 50/50 2 weeks ago). So I know the direction to go now. Thanks to Craig and you others who are leaders here providing information so everyone else can be a little better off. If these amps ever show up, I'll pass on any information I discover that can be helpful.

OK, the jig's up. It was me. I'm Mark and I'm a stereoholic. You guys are a bad influence. In two days I bought a 222A, and now a 299B. I think I'm developing a problem. I may be making up for lost time since I was divorced last year (after 15 years.) The stereo was big before, shrank during, and now is growing rapidly before it happens again (marriage). I kinda feel bad that I stepped in and grabbed the 299, but I did wait a while. It took me a little while to figure out it was a B. Then, I acted in proud selfishness (thanks Craig!). These amps better sound good. Actually, I just hope I eventually get them. So far neither seller has answered my messaging yet. But they both had tremendous feedback. So hopefully things will be OK. And to think it started with the LaScalas. I drove 13 hours round trip up to Va. for those. I just couldn't be satisfied with the corns after all these years. OK, I feel better now for coming clean.

To all the HH Scott heads, I have read so much in this forum about Scott amps and Klipsch speakers that I ended up acquiring one off EBay. It is a 222A. Hopefully, it was accurately represented, although I plan to have it checked out by an expert anyway before it connects to my Klipsch. (Actually, I have a pair of non-Klipsch I could sacrifice to satisfy that "try it now" appetite.) I have been on the HH Scott website and reviewed the whole product line up (over and over and over). I see where the 222A fits in. It is certainly not a 299A-D. But I think it will be adequate as I already have a tube amp and don't use very much power to get more than enough volume on both the Las, and the corns. I wish I had bid on the one with a tape monitor for my equalizer though. However, can I please receive some comments about this amp and the performance I should expect with the speakers listed below? Is it OK? Junk? Know of any problems or anomalies? Will I rock??? How is the dynamic range compared to SS amps? Will it sound compressed? Also, I printed the manual off the website. I do not understand how to connect the speakers. (I do not actually have the amp yet). There is a top strip for impedance and a bottom strip with a "o", and an "H" terminal. What wires go where? I read the instructions over and over and it seems like too many terminals for just 2 wires. Can one become an official Scott head with just a 222? Thanks guys

I have a question on this bi-wiring business. I have LaScalas with the crossovers with the red wires. I would like to clarify exactly how to connect the bi-wiring. If I disconnect the 2 red wires what happens? Where do I feed the full freq. range signal to the crossovers for the mids/highs? I was under the impression you just leave the same speaker wires hooked up to the usual inputs. Then run a second set from the additional amp to the bass crossover input (red wires??), not the woofer input itself. This way you are feeding full freq. range for all drivers and the crossover is still doing its job, but the bass is fed from a second amp into just the bass portion of the crossover. Is this correct or wrong? Anyhow, exactly what connections get made to bi-wire the LaScalas? I appreciate the answers to this. I just obtained an extra amp that I am considering using in this application to get more bass out of the Las. Thanks

The corns came with the risers on them when I bought them. I use them in the upright position mostly. I have laid them down on carpeting on occasion however. The risers unscrew and can be removed if need be. AS I look at them, they look like a factory job, not some add ons. This comment is based on the heavy dutiness and consistency of the mounting hardware (looks like typical Klipsch stuff) and countersinking bores into the riser woodwork. They are really on there.

Are you using the reciever in 2 channel mode when playing audio? Or is it set to one of the HT suround sound modes, or fields, or auto detect? If you specifically set it for 2 channel, how does it sound?

For the panel, I have my system in a basement with exposed poured concrete walls. Needless to say it is way too live. I have seen other threads with this discussion, but can't seem to find it anymore. I have also seen the so called "masonite curve" structure that can be built to diffuse the reflections. Pretty neat. But I am too busy to constuct anything, and have a couple of questions. Has anyone ever tried using that pink foam insulation board with the shiny back side to it? I was think ing of cutting it into cool looking shapes and GE siliconing the pieces to the walls for something quick. I have carpeted the floor which helped tremendously, and went for the longer sound stage playing the speakers the "short way" in the room, instead of the length of the basement. That made the biggest improvement. Now the speakers point to the back wall of the house which is a framed wall with exposed insulation. (Walkou basement, the other 3 walls are concrete). Anyhow, is pink foam board acoustically absorbant? Thanks

Cool spot! I had the opportunity, as did thousands to have a stealth bomber do a low fly over at a Nascar race in Atlanta last year right after the national anthem before the race. You could not here it approach at all. It swooped down like the "batplane", flew right over the track, and roared LOUDLY out of site in a near vertical attitude. It was awesome. People have told me that they have seen this at other races as well.

To the panel, I have heard that tube amps have a "natural compression". Is this true? Does the amp actually reduce the dynamic range as it gets louder? Is the key to use the least power as possible? What's the deal?

Here is another shot. If anyone sees anything they like, we can get offline and discuss. I would like to upgrade to K-horns (corns + $$), or second choice, score another really nice looking late model pair of Las. Trade anyone?

Here is a shot of my '73 corns. 30 years young.

Guys, I will go home for lunch and take a few shots. I'll post them this afternoon when I return to the office. I'll get the Las is their too since they sit together.

Fellas, As mentioned above, there was a period when the corn cabinets were all vert horns, with left/right mirror image cabinetry. No special order. I have a nice pair myself. 1973s. Function perfectly. Look nice. If anyone is interested I can post some pictures. The cabinets do have some minor marks on them. They are decorator models. Meaning they have no grills, the drivers are mounted to the front face. I put some nice looking sub woofer covers over the woofers for protection. I live in Athens, Ga. I suppose we could summon the vault if necessary. Personally, my only interest in selling them would be to purchase other Klipsch. I am the second owner, have had them since 1992, and still listen to them on a daily basis.