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I have used lots of amps with my khorns and the diff is not as big as the room treatments I made. BUT best amp i have used to date is Pass's First Watt J2...extraordinary clarity and depth with superior images...at least on a khorn! Cheers

the room...the room...the room! Is is as simple as that. Treat the room and you will have treated the problem. What size is your room and what treatments do you have? The Khorns will suffer badly where you have nodal (or modal) interference. They produce a lot of energy and standing waves. Good luck

I went back to vinyl about a month ago. Found my old Kenwood KD 500, bought a Rega arm with special mod (weights) from ebay and bought one of my favourite cartridges Garrott P77 also from ebay. Bought the right chemicals to clean up some of the old vinyl, even pulled out my old zerostat gun. Wow! All I can say is still WOW! Do it Cheers

Great response WMcD! I guess most people would not hear or know distortion until they discovered what a speaker sounds like with low distortion v what they consider has been 'acceptable' in their world. Horns do this well as they offer low distortion. Many people shy away 'cause they are big and often intimidating but from my experience as soon as people come in contact with a great set of horns in the right room and right config they are 'gob smacked'. Some I have seen cry!! After all what do you mostly hear at the movies or concerts...it's horns. People can't believe that the live sound, low distort is feasible in a home. I have had many products over the years and over the last 35 years always had a pair of Klipsch in the mix. I remember writing to PWK about Forte's v Heresy he replied that he liked them better as they offered a further half octive in the bottom and were better placed for the ear and the move to the tractrix 'opened things up a bit'. So I bought a pair of II's and never looked back. I love to fiddle and currently own a pair of Klipschorns (04) were I have built 3 different tractrix mids (PWK use to say the mid range is where it all happens). I now use Le Cléac’h Acoustic Horns see http://www.azurahorn.com/index.html the guy lives 10 minutes from me. I have a Crites tweet in the vertical position and no, repaeat no mods to AK-4 crossover. What a sound! I did at one time put in an Altec 288 16k great driver but a little over powering even with different alignment. I went back to the K55 and it has come alive with th Le Cleach horn. Applied lots of room treatments, wife hates it, I love it. Nothing beats horns in a room built to take 'em Cheers

Hi...tried bot but for me tractrix worked best Cheers

His system through HIS ears!!

Sonicaps are great caps for the price. Have a look at http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/Cap.html this guy knbows his caps!

Excellent stuff. I agree that the use of super or squash balls is the best way to knock out boom & gloom!

Get 2 squash balls, cut each in half and all halves go under each of the feet of your turntable...assumimg your have 4 feet.This has been the only thing that has ever workded for me...turn up the music and there will be no feedback & rumble. Cheers

thanks eveyone....i'll give it a go and report back

Thanks for the tip....how did you remove it?? Cheers

I have had tubes but I don't think they are no longer it! I now have Nelson Pass lates amp the J2 unbelievable amp...built for horns See http://www.firstwatt.com/j2.html for a sum Cheers

Al, I built a room so my wife could stick me in there and she could walk around the house without fingers in her ears. BTW have a look at these horns. http://www.azurahorn.com/index.html He is 10 minutes from where I live. I bought the 425hz, added an adaptor then hooked up the K55X...result was a much more believable tone and texture as well as hearing more from other instruments. In general terms things seemed more natural and less strained than the std 401 and a tractrix I had built...go figure? Cheers

Yep that's them!! Go to your local hardware store get some poly pipe, fill to desire with tontine (pillow filling) or glass wool. Need to have them slightly off the ground with both ends open...size will determine what absorption you are trying for. They do work and it's fun (sad life I lead) playing with lengths. Ensure one part of the poly pipe has the larger resectacle (at one end) to take a 'join': so one part does the joining job and has a fixed size and the other part is the variable length you can cut. I think the other thing that these pipes do is help with reflections. Cheers

Hi I saw what I guy did...can't remember what website...then I saw an organisation selling them for the 'audiophile' with an audiophile price!. They look like pipe organs or rather they are poly pipes about 4" in diam and anout 8' tall and another 6' tall. How I got to these lengths was by trial an error with my ears...no math! I'll see if I can get a pic happening Cheers

Hi I have my Khorns on the smaller wall also but I have built a couple of Helmholtz resonators (tubes filled with foam one taller than the other) and stuck smack bang in the middle of my speakers (12' wall) out about 7' from the rear wall that the speakers sit snug into. All I can say is try it...you will think the artist is in the room right in front of you...beyond anything I have ever experienced! These reonators 'balance' out resonances (at least in my room) so that you see more of the detail. I have also major corner traps and wall hangimgs but I take these tubes away and I lose deifinition of the image, Check the links in Google...it's not magic but science. Cheers

Hi Apart from the crossover network (I think it was AK 2 or 3) the box is the same. Currently the Khorn has an AK5 crossover but has same mid Atlas driver (could even be a K55m EV in 1992) and the tweet in the current Khorn is a re-worked version of the K77 (EV) made in the Philipines (I Think). The woofer is the same K33 from Eminence. Some say the older versions have a better crossover...depends on what the dealer is asking but on ebay they would probably fetch $2k maybe $2.5k or more if condition is good. I have an AK4 crossover and I think it's great! Mind you I have done some tweaks. Lots of people here build some very fine networks which may help with your choice. Cheers

Both are excellent speakers and as some have already said...it's up to your tastes and the listening environment. It's like agreeing on a good bottle of wine and what distinguishes it from a 'bad or average bottle'...usually more than cost. Anyhow I ened up taking the top hat off my '04 Khorns, putting in some Crites tweets and an Altec 288k. Built a tractrix horn for the 288. Alinged tweet and 288, pointed to a more focused listening position...nirvana! Never been more impressed with a sound in 33 years. With the great Khorn bass, now very clean, clear, 3D like and so live. Did also throw up a few diffusers, traps and convex reflectors, these made a 'helova' difference.Also kept the AK4 cross and seems to like the Altec when postioned more astutely. Love 'mixing and matching', keeps me off the streets. All the best

There is a lot of 'junk' solder out there, the best I have played with (strength, ease of use et al) contain silver...don't care if it's there or not. I have also wired up interconnects without RCA's, solder or a dielectric...it's tricky...and the sound changes again so dielectric does influence. I have used Beldon and Beldon Cat 5, not expecially wedded to it. Basically though a lot of mnfs put crap in cables...for what purpose is beyond me. Anyhow as I said don't get sucked in and let your ears do the work...sava da money!

yeah...looked at Kimber but biggest influence was XLO

Unfortunately there is a difference but you won't find it with any 'manufactured cable'. I purchased exotics for years all crap except for one or two, learned what the secrects were and made my own. Each time I pit my cables up against anything else the difference is immediate. Sounds like bull but I tried to poor hot water on the crap that flies around until on stumbled on the secret. The secret: a great RCA plug that is all copper light weight and outer shell of anyting but metal and simple 2 or 3 strands of thick good quality copper twisted and soldered with a good quality silver solder all in a dielectric that is either cotton or teflon. Stay away from any cable that is shileded usually with all sorts of garbage...all it does is 'cushion' electron flow. If you can't hear any difference don't be sucked in by what manufacturers say buy cheap! Cheers

Hi There, I currently own '04 Khorns, have had Forte II, Heresy, La Scala...BUY THE FORTE II'S. You cannot go wrong, crisp, deep and can be moved around a room. Also very 'tweakable' All the best

Hi Guys, We use to have a great dealer in the Wild West but he has now closed up show...something to do with 'internet sales' killing his business. But I beleive HN are doing a good job with Klipsch prodcuts especially in theatre set-ups. Cheers

thanks Gil, much appreciated

Ok I have to ask the obvious...why did Klipsch change the Khorn crossover? From what I understand there was very little change with drivers they have used over the past 35 years other than a dalliance with EV for their midrange for a time now they are back with Atlas?? Maybe a good place to ask (again) what do people think the best Khorn crossover was and why? Thanks