Travis In Austin

So sorry to hear about that Cal. Now you can be a consultant for those subs and make the really big bucks. You can make the rounds, Seal Beach, Long Beach, El Segundo, OR, just kick back and enjoy. Travis

One forum dude to another forum dude: hey are you going by Dallas? Other forum dude: yeah First forum dude: we picked up some speakers for a 3rd forum dude, can you drop them off to him. 2nd Forum Dude: Sure I can That saga is still going on

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That's too bad. I believe in people until they prove me wrong. I'm very rarely disappointed. I have faith in people and the fact that most want to do right. Locke

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This is interesting: if they are remastering anyway to "improve the sound" why wouldn't they start with making a new mix? The implications of what you say are fairly enormous: if these outside guys want the original mix instead of the mix tracks, then what they are doing is "re-icing the cake" to make it louder. Otherwise, I've found that having access to the original before-mixer tracks would be the way to truly recapture higher fidelity and go around all the damage done decades ago by the technology used then (i.e., not digital) to mix and master the albums. YMMV. I agree that it's probably a security thing--although they probably wouldn't send the archive copy on the original media but a digital copy made from the original - and on a SSD or flash memory drive that doesn't care if it gets booted, melted and/or smashed by UPS on the way to the remastering guys. If it were the original, I would think that the remastering guys would "go to the mountain"...so to speak. Chris It depends if the tracking tape is still available, in a lot of cases it is, but in more cases it is not available. Then you have the problem with the board, is it still available, did it have a sonic signature, are the amps still around? There are major technical issues, and then you get into the legal ones, who has to authorize, give clerances, etc.

Perhaps what is happening is that they're sending the entire mix library to the mastering house - not just the final mix tracks. If it were just the final mix, then it would be trivial to send by dropbox or even email - without any errors or degradation. So the bottom line is that the mastering engineers are reaching into the mixing engineer's domain again. I can understand why they're doing it--if they are trying to retain fidelity. However, I also see a great deal of "make it 20 dB louder" happening still. One of the most interesting events that occurred in recent memory is that Norah Jones allowed all of her albums to date (2012, that is) to be completely remixed and re-released at higher dynamic range level - usually about 2-4 dB greater dynamic range/crest factor. These discs are on the Analogue Productions label as SACDs, and are typically a bit pricey, but they are worth the money, IMHO. Chris Not the guys I am talking about, the Trinity, Grundman, Ludwig and resently passed away, Doug Sax. Unless they were hired to do the mix they don't mess with that, but all of them are widely published as wanting the highest resolution, closest copy to the original mix master as possible, preferably the original hardrive that the mix was recorded onto. It must be a security thing.

So what kind of oil you use in that? Didn't/Doesn't KFC use partially hydrogenated fat? Doesn't pretty much everything taste great cooked in PHF? I heard coconut oil is the healthier way to fry foods, but have not checked that out.

I think that is true. They want the original hardrive from the mix, without limiting, compression, other processing because that all adds degradation. I have a question, on these major remastering projects using outside mastering engineers, which most utilize, they hand fly those hard drives out to the mastering studio. Why can't they send these as files over the internet? They are on the hard drive as files. I know they are giant, but people buy giant HD files and download them every day. Is there some degradation in the process of sending the file? Assuming same format, no conversion. Do they not sent them by upload and download because of security issues, they don't want risk of files being stolen, copied, etc?

That was an awesome video by Toole. He says that the state of the art is, and will be, active powered loudspeakers. What is Spinorama? Anyone heard of that?

Yes, it's actually too easy: you have want to believe the information being given. Most analog-only thinkers (i.e., the seat-of-the-pants, touch-and-feel types) can't accept that. Digital suffers no degradation--if you can read the "bits" at all (including parity), the information gets through to the other end, unchanged, very unlike analog. Chris The top few guys in digital mastering do not agree with this. They want the original source drive, not a copy, without limiting or compression. They say, and I do not quite understand this, that every successive copy adds distortion. They are very clear about this because they have had to counter the notion some companies and studios had that digital meant you could copy without degradation. Travis

I agree, right on the head as per usual for Mike. We have discussed this before, they record for the masses, they mix for the masses, and they master for the masses. Record companies are in the business of selling art to as many people as possible. There was a time you could come close to recording/mixing/and mastering for almost the same universal audiophile speaker way back when Acoustic Research had 50 percent market share in the US with the AR-3. You could come close to doing it now if you mixed for Beats which has a 50 market share. I think that they are actually doing that on music for young people. They used to mix and master studio singles differently for AM radio play so it would sound better coming from the 4 or 6" speaker in the dash than the stereo WLP for FM airplay. They mixed and mastered for their market. The top 3 guys in mastering, I believe, are in fact the top 3 guys in mastering is because of the equipment and speakers they use which supports Floyd's theory. Unfortunately, there are only a few at this top level. A level that produced a consistently high level of quality on mastering. This is a difficult feat considering they in were stuck with what they were given in terms of the mix/recording to try and do something with. Travis

Always wanted to go to a game there, have fun.

I just own the stock, but everyone else seems to have their stuff, phones, headphones, ipads, etc. Not sure how long that is going to last, but for now they seem to be what the kids want.

Update: Went to check out the HEB brand, they are made in China. Yeti is based in Austin, and on a fluke we got one for about 80 off. We took it to the lake with wardweb, ice lasted all weekend, brought it home, and just for fun left ice in it to see how long. Still have full of ice afternsix days, I was finally made to wash it out and put it in garage.

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Engel and K2 are what the off shore fishing guys have used for a long, long time. Engel has a very good reputation as dies K2 That video has me even more confused.

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Not going to be using in a boat, but it is a space is a consideration. It was one of the factors they used, probably because it was a boating magazine.

Police Sgt. in Idaho, goes on a humanitarian mission to Nepal. Wow, quite amazing. I do work for the two largest police associations in Texas, can I share your story on their web pages? Thank you for what you do, be safe.

I am wondering the same thing. What am I missing.