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Yeah, well he looks pretty rough - and not near as rough as he *should* have looked... OK, now I guess I need to tell you that I found our picture online of us "shooting the dragon", Richard...in my hopped up, curve master SUV - really pitiful.. The one picture that I found, we were going around a curve, and a bullet bike is climbing up the back door...very funny. Bruce

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Sorry it has taken me so long to respond - still recuperating... Bob - thank you so much for the hospitality, I sincerely hope to do it again, and make more of our acquaintance - I remember such gatherings fondly when I think of the very unique and incredible people that I have had the opportunity to meet and share my love of fine equipment and music as a member of this forum. Thank you also to your lovely co-host who so graciously tried to keep us fed and hydrated during our time there! Here are some of my pictures:

Edit - I signed up in the RIGHT place. Sorry. See you there! K

Yes, we are coming, probably Friday night - save the recliners for us! Bruce

Wow, that is amazing - are you noticing any reflection problems with all of that hard wall and floor space? I have been contemplating some sound treatments and was wondering if you had noticed any need. DO those magnets on the woofers not effect rear projectionscreens as they would an old CRT? I would assume that subs that big don't have any shielding, or am I wrong? Sweet set-up at any rate! B

Hey wait - try the OPPO with a blue ray and the Panny 4k - this was my*first* HD setup - jumped from a 36" Toshiba CRT to 106"screen, and the Oppo/Panny blows it out of the park - just saying. B

Richard - we could plan one day or two, it is up to you - certainly the drive should be better if we go together? I would love to hear the 402, but without the crossover, it wouldnt work, right? I ttend to agree we need to keep it simple - but I am really looking forward to the cigars and whiskey as much as the music (of which I will enjoy in abundance)...So I am up for whatever... Bruce

OK, I have put this on the calendar, and I will plan on coming - unless something major happens - you are only about 2 1/2 hours from me! Looking forward to it! Bruce

Hey Coy! You know I am very close to you, if you need a screw driver, just shoot me an e-mail and will be there man! B

Yes, that is exactly what I meant - and to dispell any rumors, not all DVD players or receivers/preamps have the analog inputs/outputs. Really the only time I have seen them specifically was for SACD, but I run my Oppo analog 8.1 RCAs out to the preamp. B

Dave and Don - I had to weigh in on this one - I have taken a lot of heat in the last 3 years from my twenty-ish neices and nephews, who would come to my house and see speakers everywhere, connected to my 23.1 surround system, with subs and sound for days, all connected to a standard def DVD player with a 12 ear old Toshiba 38 inch CRT. SO when I saw that BR had beat HDDVD, AND Oppo had their BR player out - I decided to bite the bullet and in one swoop I got the Oppo BR, a Panny 4000U and the 106" screen. Then they come out with the SE model, WTH? I was a little peeved. My understanding is, that in order to get the 5.1/7.1 HD audio iwht BR, you eother use HDMI or the analog (EG SACD) outputs of the BR player/inputs on your receiver or amp - coax won't deliver the same thing...or so I am told. That is how I am setting it up, and it sounds pretty good. The Oppo is pretty spectacular (and since this is my first high def anything, I am easily impressed) - like going from stone wheels to a formula one, just nuts. I think you would need to at least have the front three channels, as the center channel would be pretty important for dialogue and matrixed to the L/R just doesnt seem like ti woul work terribly well, or at least not as well. That is my 2c, I would be happy to answer any other ?'s if I can... Bruce

Nice! No I am not going to call you to help me move them - I will make the wife do it! Yes, I might try the Lexi out, if that is cool with you! AND NO TREY - I have enough SS upstairs, these are my tube babies!! B

I think that the main hum is coming through the BlueBerry - and maybe just tube microphonics? I was thinking about putting those damn Herbie's c*ck rings thingies...take the BB hum and add to it the Dodd tube hum (which you are gonna have with all those tubes) and it is less than quiet. When I then turn on the turntable, the hum gets alot louder - you know, when you turn on the turntable and then turn up the volume? The sound is really noticeable. These components are all going through an APC line conditioner (that has worked very well by the by)...should I get the amps off the conditioner? B

Cool - I will try it and check back with the results. Thanks! B

The 9090 is a fantastic piece of iron, I was fortunate to pick up an old shop Sansui with about 1"of sawdust in the case for about 20 bucks. I got it home, blew it out and DeOxit the crap out of the pots, and lo! I had brought the beast back to life. I mated it to a pair of crappy looking, but glorious sounding Heresy II's in my garage, and it kicked serious fanny. I think the Sansui sound coupled with the Klipsch Heritage is a great thing, even if you dont like receivers, that 9090 pumps out enough wattage to drive anything Klipsch made - ever. B

Well I am afraid I can't be much help with any of those questions - what I know is that i am using a Jolida 100 tube CD into a Juicy Music Blueberry Extreme2, hooked to a pair of Dodd Audio 120 watt Mk2 monoblock amps (utilizing each a quad of matched KT-77's, and three 5687's) out to the GR Research LS-6 line arrays. The pair of speakers which were tested on the StereoMojo site, are *these* speakers (I got them after the write up) - I can find no futher information on the Dodds, and no specifics on the LS-6 prototypes except the graphs that were added to the review here: http://www.stereomojo.com/LS6%20review/AV123LS6review.htm I have not hooked up the LaScalas yet, or the RF7's or the Cornwalls for that matter, as they are all still *boxed up* - and driving me nuts. I will rememdy that shortly, but they are upstatirs and this system down - and moving the system into a new room is going to cuase its own set of problems, and lugging La Scalas downstairs right now is just not in the WAF factor, I am afraid. Past that I am awash. Did that help? B

Hey Richard! Actually, no I was not posting at work - but I am now! Flexibility is a good thing, and I have it in abundance right now. Need to have you come over and check out the set-up, will look a lot different come Thanksgiving though, just got the stuff for the "home theater" and I am pretty excited. What do you think about the BB question? You have a Peach, do you find it to be kind of noisy? I think I might have asked you this before... B

Ok, I know this is a newby question - but I just need some straight talk here- I have a new to me set of Dodd 120's, and I have found that when mated with the BlueBerry X, that the tube hum was pretty loud, as I was having to turn up the gains to maybe one o'clock and the volume to 1 or two oclock, causing some unpleasant hiss, on the 8 ohm taps So in a stroke, I decided to move to the 4 ohm taps, and of course, I don't have to turn the volume up near as high - but I am hearing some very different things; the bass appears to be stronger, the dynamics louder and faster and the treble sounds a bit rolled off...or am I just out of my mind? First, can I hurt my speaks doing this? Am I driving the amps too hard to produce this signal? What technically am I doing here? Have any of you tried the 4 ohm tap for any modern speakers, say for the RF7 with the deep impedance drops? I am experimenting right now with my line arrays thaat while they are not as efficient as Klipsch, they are relatively decent. I haven't tried the turntable with this setup yet, but with the tube hum, and the needle hum - the noise is palpable and I have yet to figurre out what to do about it - Anyone care to weigh in? Is what I am hearing just nuts? Thanks! B

Thanks guys- good leads all - I am gonna buy me a butt load of tubes in a little bit! This is getting ridiculous! B

Thanks, I can read well enough - and you are just an unhappy cuss aren't you? What I was trying to say to this gentleman was that, for those of us not fortunate enough to just "buy [expensive pieces of equipment] and use them in your system", that research, among and across many different posters, both good and bad - generally leads to a good idea of what these pieces of equipment can and can't do. As Emotiva doesn't have the customary corporate overhead, the components they sell are lower priced (as I understand it), the quality is excellent, and the customer service is also very good (a huge consideration). This is what I have gleaned, not from one or two folks talking about these thigs, but hundreds of comments across many boards...but of course, I could assume that they are all just full of crap, because they are all idiots justifying their purchases - but frankly, I don't need to justify my opinions or purchases to you or anyone, and believe it or not - this non-audiophile really wants to just be helpful - but that may just be a dodge too. I don't own Emotiva, nor have I heard them - but people I respect on this forum have - and they like the stuff. That holds a lot of weight for me, but ultimately I always make my own decisions. So, what might have been said - to paraphrase - that you *can* have too much *bad* power. "Good" power is generally going to cost you money, but dont believe for a second that just because you pay a ton for it, it is going to be better than stuff worth a lot less. There have been some high priced equipment that I have just not been impressed with...now that requires just going to audio get-togethers, and hanging with good folks with similar tastes. Now the RF-7's need power to make them sing; my 400~7 Sunfire drives them nicely, but lesser amps that I have had - both very good and mid-fi, do nothing for them; I almost got rid of the speakers thinking that something was wrong with them...until I put a light under them. Oh and no justification was needed for the purchase of the RF-7's as they were a gift that I didn't purchase, just saying. I have never heard Pass amps in person, but (again by word of Internet), I have heard they are outstanding. As always, it is your call! I will go mind my own business again, sorry for the interruption. B

OK, that is wacky- I have a very similar set-up, in no where near as pretty a package - tell me a about those media racks, metal computer enclosures, right? Tell me how you have those set-up please - I really need some help getting this stuff in an enclosure. Looks killer... Bruce

OK - Too much power is a bad thing? Hmmm...don't know if I agree with that. I own heritage, and the full RF-7 line, and I have tried quite a few different amps, separates and receivers, so I have a few opinions on your questions. First, if you want to use the RF's for theater at any point (which they excel at, by the way) - I would go for a very good amp and pre, that also has excellent home theater surrround codecs - I personally like and swear by Sunfire products, but that is me. Obviously, maybe not so obvious, yoru RF's need solid state amplification - any tubes that I tried touse with them just didn't have the balls - while efficient, the impedence dips require some serious power. Now just because they may be rated at 250, a 500 watt amp is a good thing - it gives you what you call "headroom" - which is power to deal with the spikes that is inherent in a digital signal, and which gives you the dynamics that make music fun to listen to, quiet and then thunderous.response. Now I have heard really good things about Emotiva products, go read some of the scuttlebut, don't take anyone's word for it....go on the various forums and research it - alot. I recommend www.avsforum.com, audiokarma.org, audiocircle, and this forum. You can learn all you need from these sources. I also do endorse the RF-7 mod by DeanG, really smoothed out the top end, and made them very much more listenable, especially at high volumes. Make sure they are broken in, your RF's - I still dont think mine are sufficiently broken in... Also, you want a CD player - I can't say enough about my Oppo universal - great sound for everything - if you want to save money and want to get a gneral universal, will play anything player - go get it - damn nice. Any other specifics - feel free to PM me. Bruce

Hey all, I am looking for GE 7044's (need 6 of them) for replacements/backups - anyone know wherre I can get them, matched maybe cryoed, NOS (obviously)? New to this thing - looked on Dougs tubes, and elsewhere...I thought they were supposed to be relatively easy to find, but apparently not? Thanks! B