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yes it is a sound format like DD and DTS, except it's not available in the consumer market. it has eight channel capabilities. www.sdds.com ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

well that's probably less exciting... when are you getting a full-blown reference setup? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

addicted to TVs... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

quote: Originally posted by Colin: In fact, if you can tolerate the internal speakers on large TVs, all you really need to add is a powered sub-woofer. To make a very simple HT, just add a good sub-woofer to the speaker outputs on the TV. This will give 80 -90% of the thrill of home theater without the cost. Ok now that is just outrageous. Colin, I don't necessarily disagree with all you said, except saying you can use the TV speakers to recreate 80-90% of the home theater experience is just plain silly. Plus, you need more than a pair of front speakers and a sub. A lot of sound comes from the center, and if you're more than one listener, forget about good imaging in stereo! Also, you need the surrounds. I don't care how well your speakers image, they can never recreate the sound of two discrete rear channels with sounds going back and forth and ambience reinforcing the whole experience. I would like to add, on a more general note, that very often (not always), people are looking for different things from a home theater setup than from a music setup. I'm generalizing here of cours,e but in general the goal of a music system is to reproduce the original sound with perfect accuracy. In movies, on the other hand, especially the big Hollywood action blockbuster (the main reason a lot of folks get into home theater for; American Beauty is almost as enjoyable a film on a simple TV, while Arnold really benefits from a full-blown setup), the goal is to get very in-your-face, exciting sound. IMHO, that is where Klipsch excels the most. Therefore, in an ideal world, I would be using something like Dynaudio or Energy Veritas speakers, or some classic Klipsch (Klipschorns) in a stereo music room, and enjoying a good multichannel Klipsch Reference setup in the HT room, which would also probably serve as the Rock, Rap, and Techno music system. But that's just me. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 03-09-2002 at 11:35 AM

two simple answers: -set everything to small (easy to do) -try every possible configuration and be the judge (obvious drawbacks, but only true way of achieving what you really want: the best sound possible in your room with your equipment) ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

ellis, that is pretty damn funny! I pity the poor salesperson who was responsible for this mistake... seriously, I am also wondering whether there really is a big difference between the RF-3 and RF-3 II. The Monster wiring seems to me like more marketing than down-to-earth thinking, but the internal foam improvement worries me a bit. I don't know if it's worth the increase in price though. Anyways, the point is fast becoming moot, as the original RF-3s are being phased out of the market pretty fast. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 03-08-2002 at 11:19 PM

Justin, beautiful pics! There really is artistic value in these IMO. I especially loved the elderly people picture, it evoked life passing them by at too quick a pace... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Thanks Phil. We need a tongue-in-cheek smiley... This one isn't good enough: ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I'm sure they'll sound better now that you know they're Klipsch!! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

well I don't know, we have none in stock, not even in the warehouse... maybe it's just a bogus entry, I don't know. nobody I asked knew about it. and about the price, if that is not a big mistake, it seems to be the same as the regular black finish. I just noticed, BobG lists "New wood finishes" as one of the changes for the MkII ref 3 series... That would seem to confirm everything... Could we get an official Klipsch confirmation/denial? I'm about to buy my RF-3s, I don't want to buy the black ones a couple weeks before the cherry ones arrive! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 03-04-2002 at 09:39 PM

Personnally, I would go for the M3. But that's just me, my butt is still young and thus I prefer the firmer ride... I would only miss the all wheel drive, I love it on my mom's Subaru WRX! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Ears, stop talking about mayonnaise, it makes me sick... I hate mayo! Whenever somebody takes it out the fridge, I leve the room... Plus, I was born in France, as the rest of our family, and I don't think we've inherited that part of Quebec's culture yet. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

maybe it's a magic garage! or maybe i'm really tired and need to go to bed... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

quote: Originally posted by kenratboy: I want a BMW 735i Who doesn't? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

deanG, LOL ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

plus, exceptional sound would come from separates if you were to go all out, not from a "measly" 5800, that will be replace very shortly by the 5803... at least make some sense when you try to invent yourself a virtual life... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Okay, now at our store we have a new entry under Klipsch, and it is the Klipsch RF II cherry, retailing at the same price the RF-3s retail at. Could it be that Klipsch is going to offer the RF3 II in cherry on the North American market?? It's odd that they don't put a number designation though, but I guess telling from the price it has to be a 3, not a 5 or 7. And no, we don't have any in stock. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 03-03-2002 at 11:45 PM

Hey, I just like the fact that those old schoolbooks are FINALLY useful to me! ;-) ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Flynn, yeah, I know, i'm still at a basic level here, I have a couple major upgrades to do before I really start tweaking fine details. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

yeah, I never took part in wire threads before, guess I'll steer away from now on... I always wondered why they got so ugly. I guess I still wonder how this one did... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

I don't understand... I see two transformers, but it has five channels? So one transformer is running two channels and the other one is running three? or am I completely on the wrong tracks? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

Wow! That was unexpected... I apologize to all that had to see that ugly thing, whatever it was... I find it pretty amusing to find the word peace after such a post, SOUNDJUNKIE... But anyways. Rest assured, SOUNDJUNKIE, I wasn't trying to attack your point or "pick apart" anything, or take your comments out of context, I was just trying to structure my argument in a clearer fashion to make my OPINION clear to all. Guess that didn't work, huh? I apologize if it seemed like I was attacking you personally, I was just using your post as a kind of springboard to express my counter-arguments to the opinion you and others hold that it is worthwhile to spend lots of money on expensive cable. I don't think that somehow your opinion is inferior to mine, or that it isn't justified, or anything, I just don't adhere to the same point of view! 1) when I talked about Radio Shack wire compared to super-exotic brand name wire, I was exaggerating. Admittedly, that may not be the most rational thing to do, but I guess I was just using sarcasm... Guess I'm not the only one not to catch it, huh? 2) I'd like to know how I "took a shot" at your statement that the audio system was a chain by stating I AGREED with you? 3) The speakers are a PART of the system, imo. Again imo, they are an IMPORTANT part of the system, and they are the component that impacts the sound most because they are the component that is the least good at actually reproducing the sound without coloration. therefore, the better the speaker, the least coloration (or distortion) the sound has. talking about amps, for example, it is my opinion that they impact the sound much less, because as a general rule it is more difficult to tell several good amplifiers running inside of their limits (i.e. no clipping) apart than to tell several good speakers apart (even though I have been able to, and I'm sure tube amps impart a very different sound that their SS counterparts). same for CD players, for example, assuming they are of relatively good quality and use decent DACs. and same for the wires again IMO. 4) As to who believes the same as me, i.e. speakers have more impacts than other links in the playback chain? Well, for one, there was an article in a relatively recent Sound and Vision magazine, if you're looking for industry sources, where the person said he'd spend 99% of his budget on speakers if he could find amps and dvd players for 75 cents each... or something to that effect. Now of course he was exaggerating. Also, I have seen a great many comments in bulletin boards such as this one, where knowledgeable people expressed the same opinion. And you must tend to the same, since you are using speakers that cost almost as much as the rest of your system together... or am I assuming too much? 5) Last thing: when I said that people who paid a lot for their cables must have had a good reason, I don't feel I made my argument any weaker, I was just acknowledging the fact that some people had a different opinion than mine, and that that opinion was fully justified and as valuable as mine or any other, if not more than mine given my lack of experience in the field. I guess it's something I can do, accept that others have a different opinion, allow them to share it, and examine it, agreeing that it holds value. About the "stab" I took at you in the other thread (BTW, I had to search for a thread invloving both of us since I didn't even remember that one, tells you something about my intention to "flame" you... maybe you put too much importance in very small things.), it was done in bad humor I guess, and I now have apologized. Obviously my tone didn't properly come through, as I am against watermarking of any sort, as you are. Maybe I was just reacting to the harshness of your comment with some sarcasm. Funny how you can use it and it's fine and I can't formalize myself or comment on it, and you get so pumped up over mine. Anyways, I'd just like to say that I really wasn't trying to put you down or anything, or pick apart your argument, or really anything at all with the wrong intentions. Just trying to express my opinion, sorry if I offended you, and I apologize again to third parties that might have been offended too. Cheers! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection This message has been edited by Seb on 03-02-2002 at 11:57 PM

apparently this is a thread I offended you in, SOUNDJUNKIE, so I present you with my apologies. apparently I'm not the only one missing the irony/sarcasm in others' posts... ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

if it's not, send it to me... thanks for the info, BTW! ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection

have you tried different positioning of the sub? I'm not experiencing that lack of tightness in the frequencies you describe with my sub, however when I move around the room there is a place where the bass is more powerful (overbearing actually) but lacks tightness in a major way. before spending money, I would explore that possibility. ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection