Cody_Mack

Ya'll tape heads (pun intended) may be interested in a little project Doc B is getting going over at his DIY community. Don't know much about the project; I am not into the tape equipment, so I can't elaborate on the details. Go to the Forum and search 'tape project' http://www.audioasylum.com/forums/bottlehead/bbs.html http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobespc/Seduction/bottleheadtapeheadpreamp.htm Rick

Ditto all the above...one of the best cover bands ever. And, combine Warren Haynes and Derek Trucks with the 'Brothers in an intimate setting....doesn't get much better! Rick

Erik, I am a few steps behind you on the upgrades, but I can relate. 2A3 and Heresy do make beautiful music! What I wants to know is, how do you get your wife interested? Mine is more interested in, who is leading the 'Amazing Race' or who is the latest 'American Idol' Lucky Man! Rick

Actually, I think Bruce Edgard designed the Empire cabinet. My guess would be that Ray Moth only made the tacky-retro-rococo-art-deco-kitsch dressing. It was one of the worst sounding full range back loaded horn I ever heard. And let me tell you I've heard a lot! An expensive piece of sh!t if there ever was one. Boy, I screwed up that post....try again.... So, what are some of the better, or best, full range back loaded horns you have heard. Inquring minds want to know. If-n-when I ever get my garage (workshop) cleaned out, I want to build a set. Rick

Actually, I think Bruce Edgard designed the Empire cabinet. My guess would be that Ray Moth only made the tacky-retro-rococo-art-deco-kitsch dressing. It was one of the worst sounding full range back loaded horn I ever heard. And let me tell you I've heard a lot! An expensive piece of sh!t if there ever was one. So, what are some of the better, or best, full range back loaded horns you have heard. Inquring minds want to know. If-n-when I ever get my garage (workshop) cleaned out, I want to build a set. Rick

What Mike said...[H]

Thanks, yes I got a couple of replies. I also conversed with BEC about rebuild/replace of the crossovers. I am thinking of just replacing the caps right now. Got a suggestion of favorite brands or flavors? I can do the work myself. Rick

Mr. Garrison may post any topic in any forum. You, on the other hand, must stick to audio subjects. Don't worry! In seven years you will have the same privilege!! Good one...guess I was out of line. But just think...in only seven years I'll be permitted to discuss Entertainment Tonight and other 'celebrity' and current events with all of you experts. And here I was thinking giving up the TV for music would make me smarter...silly me...[]

So sorry....must have stumbled in here by mistake....thought I was in an Audio Forum??? [:^)]

I am enjoying my Foreplay-III very much. It is driving a pair of Paramours driving 1983 Heresys. I am very impressed, but I am also just getting seriously into hi-fi, so what do I know. I think the Foreplay is an excellent value. Sure, you can probably get much more, but you can also spend MUCH more. I had lots of fun building it the amp. Soldering came natural for me. I would like to build kits for a pasttime but I don't have the tech savvy to design them. All I can do is construct someone else' design. Here is a link to my FP-III and Paramour pics. http://www.flickr.com/photos/85286195@N00/ Rick

Looking for someone to help with my 1983 Heresies. They are sounding fabulous; just looking to renew needed parts and discuss tweaking options. Non-local tweakers also considered. Email is rtrigler@sbcglobal.net Rick

Gonna stir it up again, arncha? []

Forgive me (still newb here), but wouldn't they sound better if you un-wedged them from the "corner"...they seem boxed in, square...?

Glad you asked! My Heresy 1's, vintage 1983 love the new SET amps I built for them. Not the cheapest option and is pushing the $1,000 tag you are shying away from. However, these are complete kits put together for the first time builder. Very concise instruction and a very active support forum to help you. Practice on your soldering skills and go for it! Bottlehead Foreplay-III Pre-Amp http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobespc/foreplay3/foreplay3.htm Bottlehead PAramour II 2A3 Monoblocks http://www.bottlehead.com/et/adobespc/paramourII/paramourII.htm BTY, the above setup (pre-amp) does not have a phono stage. They do offer another kit for the phono section. If interested, we can chat with private mail. I had fun bulding these. I wish I had more of them to do! Rick

Not all big cities are speaker friendly, try finding a Klipsch dealer that has Heritage floormodels in the greater NYC area! Used to be a shop in Houston called 'Home Entertainment'. They were Klipsch friendly; that's where I bought my Heresies in '83. Now they are 'Tweeter'.....was in there a couple years back and asked them where the Klipsch speakers were....said they don't carry them anymore 'cause Best Buy, etc. carries them and that would diminish their 'high-end' image if they also carried them. Well, here's some of Tweeter's present offerings.... http://www.tweeter.com/category/index.jsp?categoryId=1124339&cp=1124285

Turning a sub up all the way..........................Just might do that.........Me, I just turn my sub up just to the point you know it's there, I turn it down until you don't hear it, then turn it up to the point where you just hear it............a tip a forum member gave me..........it works for me and my meager set up.....................It's all what you want your system to sound like......My sub never gets turned past half volume..................although let me add this, I think my Heresy's with a good tube unit would NOT need a Sub................again, this is not fact, it's what I think, and someday soon, I'm going to have my buddy bring over his Scott intergrated 299 and we'll see what happens...................JJKIZAK believe me, I wish I didn't need to run a sub.........and when I get Khorns, I am not using a sub, I'll put it away for awhile, and let my ears be my guide.................I also like Blondes, and Red Heads, and Brunettes, and ...........................later Buckster (et, al), <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> I am with you to a point. A couple of weeks after I rolled the tubes into my system, I started feeling something is missing. It was sounding damn fine, but I had the craving for a little more bottom. (Hey, I am a red-blooded malewhat can I say???) So, when the wife wasnt looking, I dragged the HT sub-woofer into my music room and plugged into the Foreplay. I turned the frequency adjustment all the way down and then started turning the volume up. I got the volume where I could hear it good, then back down to where it faded away, then back up slightly. Perfect! This setting adds some of the bottom end that my Heresies are missing, and I think that is all I need, for now. Maybe you dont care for a lot of bass, but the numbers dont lie; Heresies are not known for low bass. I think the overall sound should be proportional across the board; bass requirements may depend on several factors, with room size and room frequency response, along with amplifier power and speaker size and, of course, personal preference, playing a very big roll in the choice. If I had a very large room with some Khorns, I am sure I would have to analyze the situation differently. BTW, did I mention Heresies Love Tubes?

'Buckster, Surely you meant Lone Star Bottleheads......yep, I know about it; I was there! Actually there are a couple of pics of my new Foreplay pre-amp that I built, and even one of my fat a$$! Rick

This is a very long post..sorry. I am still very newb to the Forum and to real hi-fi equipment, but I, also, have an opinion. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> I bought my Heresies in 1983, I believe. I grew up very near Hope so I knew about Klipsch, and I had heard a pair driven by one of the Classic Mac SS amps a few years earlier. I used the Heresies for a short while with a smallish (30Watt?) receiver; think it was a Caliber. Sounded pretty good; at least better than the boxed rack systems that were (and still are for the general public) popular with most folks. Didnt have that setup long because I bought a mid-fi rack system by Fisher; one of their Studio Standard systems. This system sounded pretty good; separate integrated amp pushing 150WPC, separate tuner, equalizer, cassette, turntable, etc. The large floor-standing speakers had 15 woofers. It would get loud and with lots of bass. The amp had a sweetness about it, yet it was also serious in that it would get loud and sweet. Had a bad lighting storm in the area and I think lightning hit the power line; pretty much fried most of the electronics in my house, brand-new big screen included! All of the rack system survived except for that amp. I got it repaired once, but the power supply section must have been so weak, that it happened again during a storm, even with a decent surge protector. I still have the amp (and the rest of the rack system), and I do want to have it repaired again someday. Now that I (really) know what good sounds like (with my new tubes), I want to go back to that SS powerhouse to compare, and to also enjoy the different sound. After the amp died again I replaced it with a Pioneer 100W receiver. This was one of the first good Pro-Logic receivers. Unlike most of todays surround receivers, it would play quality stereo music on the left and right front channels. So, this filled the void in my rack system. I enjoyed for a while and gradually started loosing interest in quality music altogether; at least in the home environment (I did have a very nice system in my pickup). OK, let me go ahead and get to the point here. (for some of you, its not like I am keeping you from something; some of you are on here round the clock, damn near!) A couple of years ago, (seems like overnight I was struck by the hi-fi bugweird) I dragged the Heresies back out of the closet and they replaced the Fishers in my system. Oh my, I thought, what the heck had I been thinking? Those poor babies back in that closet for twenty years! They dont have near the bass of those Fishers, but they have so much more in all other areas; especially clarity and efficiency. They are sounding really good driven by that SS Pioneer receiver. I will note, however, that I was using heavy equalization to get the room response the way I like it. (key word here, the way I like it) I have always used equalization to some extent. It provides the sound I want to hear. Until now, that is (read below). I read about all things hi-fi, especially tubes for the last two years. I finally ordered my Bottlehead kits and assembled them. As I said, I was enjoying the SS Pioneer sound with my Heresies. But, I had to use equalization to get that sound. I had been reading that the purists do not use equalization or tone control at all. I was a little skeptical leading up to the time I rolled the tubes into my system; skeptical that I could realize that same or better sonic quality without tone control and with a mere 3 Watts. So here I go, unplug the rack system and connect the Heresies to the Paramours. Boy, was I wrong. OMG, this is unfreakinbelievable! I am suddenly transported to a new sonic dimension. Clarity of all instruments are improved. The bass has a purer sound but probably not as low in frequency. Kinda hard to tell with the Heresies as they dont go that low anyway, but they have a very clean bass. A comment I heard about Heresies; they do what they do very honestly. The highs have been toned down, cleaned up a bit. I dont necessarily mean rolled off, cause I still hear what I heard before. I think maybe more refined is a good definition. The Heresies are producing less of that bright sound that they are infamous for (more so on other Forums that this one). And the midrange, well is nothing short of glorious. Will it get loud? The answer is yes. Hard numbers do not lie. 97dB efficiency driven by one watt is, well, loud. Do they get as loud as I ever want to listen? No; same thing.the numbers dont lie. If I want to hit 120 dB, my moderate system is not going to get me there. I need lots more power and bigger speakers. But in my limited listening room (10 x 12), I am very content with my system right now. I have some future plans that will probably eventually include a pair of Khorns in a large room. But my present assumption is that I will be driving them with SET, most of the time. Again, 105dB is loud. Maybe this is not a fair comparison? The 100WPC SS is an above average Pioneer unit that cost about $400 back in the mid 90s. The tube amps, FP-III pre and Paramour 2A3 monoblocks at 3WPC, set me back about $900 plus my time to build them. I would love to hear (and own) a high quality and high power SS amp. I agree they have their place and function in music. For those days when I am in the mood for a concert sound, that kick-drum echoing through the hall, I will have the muscle to get there. I recently attended a Bottlehead group meeting. The host had all sorts of audio gear in two separate listening areas. He can change out components on the fly and get the most out of each listening session depending on mood, desired music, etc. That is where I want to be. This is a very good thread. And, borrowing a line from one of the better on-line mags, all that really matters is that you Enjoy the Music.com® Rick

Very interesting reading...........did get lost in some of the tech stuff, but informative none the less..............Thank you.... This one will defintiely lose you...I printed it out and kept in the "library" for casual reading. 90% was over my head, but I understand enough of the plain English to 'get it'. http://w3.mit.edu/cheever/www/cheever_thesis.pdf#search=%22Daniel%20H.%20Cheever%20Thesis%22

Was out at the Super Mart getting a few supplies and browsing through the CD bargain bin and there is Stardust for $9.88. Score! Had this album on the wish list; was wanting to get it on vinyl, but I am not even close to having my new system in place, so I went for it. Thanks for the reminder! Been twenty-ish years since I heard this.

Willie can sing, when he wants to. In his early years, and even today, in the studio he impresses. Great job with Ray Charles, 'It Was A Very Good Year", BTW. But as of late, in concerts and other public appearances, etc., he just throws the lyrics out there in monotones. I hate when artists resort to that. Rolling Stones is another example of that. If you can't produce any more, hang it up! Rick

Great topic. Just a couple of questions from a newb: What's up with the center channel listening to stereo music? We are looking to 'build' our next house, designed around Rick's room. What would be ideal dimensions for a Khorn? Rick Houston, TX

Neil Young is back? Yeah, with the same 30-year old guitar riffs and some boring political lyrics. Don't waste your $$$!

Yup. See my new toys... http://www.flickr.com/photos/85286195@N00/

Thanks all for the welcome and the kind words. Just after I bought the Heresys in '83, I purchased a mid-fi rack system and the Heresys went to the closet until now. I never knew what I had, until now. I will be looking for something larger but right now am limited by room size. I live just oustide of Houston, but my Mom is still in Nashville.