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Great review Youthman. I feel confident in getting myself a pair of II's for sure. Will fit my budget better than the III's. Should be a significant upgrade from the old 5.5's I've been running for over 20 years now. Curious, did you run them straight, or bi-amp them? The Marantz receiver that I have allows for bi-amping. Benefit, or none? Thanks again.
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Coming in on the back end of this thread. I built a Dayton UMAX 15 kit (sealed box) from Parts Express and coupled it with an Inuke 3000DSP as recommended by many forum members. Have been totally happy, 500 sq. ft. room. Contemplating building another one with another 3000. Anyway, I say start with something like this to get your feet wet. You could build two of them and stack them with a 6000DSP. If you want ported, maybe look at a Marty cube. It's a proven design and would get you what you want. I have an old SVS 20 -39 pci sub, 12" driver, 325 watt amp, single port, cylinder design, and it plays hard in the movie realm, not as great for music though. That's why I went with a sealed design for my listening area. I play mostly music. I'm not saying at all that ported designs are not good with music though. I just wanted something simple to start with. Listen to the other members here, building a poorly designed sub box will just frustrate you and waste a lot of time and effort, not to mention some dough.
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16 minutes ago, T2K said:
Well, I learn something new every day. I didn't know they were talking about football ...
Hey Man, you're kids about to to go for the swirly ride! Unless that's just a big arse toilet. One that size would make the mornings a little easier. It's like the all in one. You could incorporate it into the 3 S's in the morning. Not that I would want to, but you could.....
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16 minutes ago, Arrow#422 said:
It's still stupid money, paid to grown men - and women, to play a GAME.
Contracts in the $100's of millions are being paid to individuals negating the ability of an average fan to even attend a game.
Is a sports player worth a BILLION dollars over the course of a career? WOW, I say no.
As I age, I see the ridiculousness of it all especially the "made for television" stages that are sold to the masses.
Great reason for a get together party though, but to get hung up on the outcome of the game - not so much.
Pappy used to say: Will this matter in 100 years?
If not, then........do not be at all bothered by it.
I completely hear what you're saying. But, if you make your company X amount wouldn't you expect Y in return? The American public puts these people in an extremely high profile. It's what fans want. Mark Zuckerburg played with an entity called Amazon. No one is shunning him for his efforts. To further your point, one of my young ladies brought this up. 8 people in the world have as much money as 50% of the World's population. Sick, quite really. As for made for TV, the Kardashian world needs to be obliterated. Why America, why?
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11 minutes ago, Arrow#422 said:
Not really, just the typical hype surrounding a group of overpaid individuals playing a game of catch on TV for the sake of "entertaining" us - or providing a means to place wagers and make a select few in Vegas even MORE $$$.
Not hardly. Two groups of very physically talented, and intelligent, individuals going at it on a field of a hundred yards. Boil it down as you will, but, what I saw was a great game, battle of wills. They get paid the money because they can do what you and I can't, showed on the field tonight. Ever played the game? I only did in HS, was tough for me then. Can't imagine what it's like at that level. Vegas tries to make money on whether Punxsutawney Phil will come out of the hole or not. It's ROI, they make their franchises dough because people watch, in bunches. How many sporting events close the nation as the Super Bowl, none.
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I've only ever had Marantz and Klipsch, so I'm totally biased and with little experience with any other combo. I have three Marantz AVR's, one in the little HT room with all Klipsch and SVS, one in the master bedroom with Klipsch and a UMAX 15/Inuke3000dsp combo, and the oldest Marantz out in the garage with some crappy Yamaha speakers and a 50 watt sub, works fine for in the garage and when placed out back. I hope you enjoy your purchase.
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19 minutes ago, T2K said:
I've got a brand new pair of 84th Anniversary Klipschorns in Foolswood finish that have never been opened. Distress sale for $2400 delivered. My Paypal account # is BR549. Might entertain lowball offers.
Funds will be there in the morning. How could I be so lucky? Khorns from the future, sweet. Patience is key. Someday, I'll find some heritage gear that's worth it, someday...
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I added the Crites diaphragms to my 5.5's and was pleased. They are brighter than the stock diaphragms for sure. But, the increased level of detail is impressive. I've never tried the Crites crossovers though. My next move with these will be to eventually upgrade to the RF-7 lineup.
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Nice work! They look great and probably sound the same.
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I'm near Seattle, but without HDMI it's a no go for me. Great price though.
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52 minutes ago, vasubandu said:
Thanks @ACV92. So I understand you to say that you would refer RF-7 ii over RF-7 i with my existing RC-7 and RS-7? I ask because I thought the RC-7 i would be a better match. I am asking this as a serious question. I know that you may not have a perfect answer, but I would be curious about your personal answer.
Honestly, I wouldn't be able to descriptively discern from the I's to the II's, I have no relative sampling experience. I simply look at it as iteration differences. There's a reason why they've made I, II, and III. Each subsequent model is designed/marketed as better than the one before. I could tell you to go for the I's but would be providing ill-informed information. Soooo many forum members here have way more experience with said models as compared to me. @MetropolisLakeOutfitters is one that I would aim my questions at.
I'm still running my old KG 5.5's as mains, not the most sought after Klipsch product. Yet, they are of an old horn tweet (Tractrix), dual 10 configuration, as I see as the older, less proficient, cousin of the RF-7 line.
With your center and surrounds, the I's may work awesome for you. The I's are significantly better than what I'm running, by design parameters as I see. So, proceed with caution, audition them, and decide if they're what you want.
With Klipsch, it's kind of like buying the car you've always wanted. I can buy it with less options, but would never be what I actually sought after. In other words, save up, test, ask questions, until you find the pinnacle of your preference.
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10 minutes ago, vasubandu said:
Well, @ACV92 you better get your *** out there and get some objective or subjective answer. You can't just post some half-assed answer to a question life this. I expect a full differential analysis by 8:00 a.m. tomorrow, and that is Pacific Standard time no matter where you are.
Thanks for the response. That is the logical answer, just wondering where things fit. I could get the the RF-7 i for $950 easily, just wondering about alternatives. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
$950 is OK for the I's, but I'd maybe search for the II's at a similar price point. As with every Klipsch iteration, improvements are at the forefront. If I had my druthers I'd spring for a pair of Black Ash RF-III's. At $3500 and some change though, I'd have to convince my young ladies to quit all sports and activities. Probably have to find a new house to live in as well, as they would surely boot my arse out the door. But the dual woofer chambers, ports, are just too tantalizing. I hate Klipsch for that, I always want more. Stupid R & D and Marketing departments anyway.
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8 minutes ago, vasubandu said:
Hey, the thread crapping is welcome entertainment. The post apparently was a waste of electrons, so you guys at least made it worth something. While we are at it and not to change the subject, if you had to choose between RF-7 i, KLF-30, CF-4, and Chorus ii as left and right to go with RC-7 center and RS-7 surrounds, which would it it be? I am so confused I cna't tel my cornwall from my Jubilee.
If I was a gambling man, I'd say go with the RF-7's. You'd have three 7's and in Vegas three 7's are a good thing. Other than that, I have no objective, or subjective, critique of the said line up. Haven't experienced any of them. Other more tenured folks will chime in soon.
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7 minutes ago, The History Kid said:
How nice of you to take care of my graduation presents and bring them inside until I can get them in May.
Sorry to break in here, but are those standard Khorns, or ones on steroids. I've never had the pleasure but those look huge. Spec'd them out, grabbed a tape measure, and the 'perspective' shot is on par with my tape. I would need bigger corners for sure and a reinforcement of the floor below. Dig the pic.
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@-js- I was laid off once, it was face-to-face, and honestly, it was the best thing that could have happened. Bettered myself for sure. I hope it works the same for you.
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Cool stuff @USNRET. Closest I ever got to any of this hardware was when I got to tour the Nimitz back in high school. My buddy's Dad was the head of Air Traffic Control and the Fire Department. We got the special tour. She was docked in Bremerton with a bunch of guys hanging off the side slapping some Navy grey on her hull. Got to see a lot places many civilians don't get to.
Went all over the ship. I can't describe the enormity of this vessel. We toured the ATC room, went to the decks where they stored the aircraft, wings folded up, some choppers, and big arse elevators. Got to see the launching mechanisms, Captain's Mess Hall, etc. Standing on the flight deck was crazy, you could see forever, seemed like anyway. I think it was 12 stories above water level and 3 or so below. Looking off the edge of the deck definitely kicked in the vertigo.
What I do remember most is cracking my head on one of the 'hang' bars by the steps/ladders between decks. I knew they were used for quick decent to the deck below, but man, don't lean back too much when ascending them. All in all, I dug the experience. It was surreal. She wasn't as fully loaded as in the pic but awe inspiring for sure.
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57 minutes ago, Schu said:
Made in Korea?
After looking at these further, does anyone else feel that they are much newer than what is claimed? I know there's a pic of a tag, maybe someone could verify age.
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8 minutes ago, Gnote said:
Those are beautiful !
Agreed. I just hope someone who really appreciates them picks them up. Sooooo clean.
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Check these out. If I only had the money.......
https://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/ele/d/klipsch-cornerhorns/6448195735.html
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If you really want to drive the low end, and 'feel' it as well, this is a good place to start. I have an older SVS 20-39 PCi sub, 325 watt, in our home theater room and it brings movies to life. These subs are amazing in regards to output. He's selling it at about half price versus new. If it's close to you I'd see if he could demonstrate it for you. It may sound a little different when you get it home though. His room versus your room.
It took me a few days to get the sound of it right when I first got mine home. When I did though, wow. There's been times when I thought I was going to over extend the driver, or start clipping the amp, and it's never happened. Anyway, if you've never had a sub before, after trying this, it may make all the sense in the world. Keep us posted if you get it.
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I have to agree with matched L/C/R, but, why is it that every manufacturer builds centers horizontal with multiple/smaller drivers? Width of sound, stage, space, I'm not sure. RC-64 as an example. I feel that if I were running matched components, I would run two towers matched to my mains as my center versus one. 80/20 rule applies as I understand. If 80% of the audio/vocals during movie playback is coming from my center might as well beef it up more. I think everyone here can admit to noticing a significant difference with playback between a large set of Klipsch mains with a smallish center. If exposed to such a scenario.
I wonder about those that run Jub's. What in the world are they going to run in the center to play with them, unless another Jub, or a smaller version. So, if I had the wallet, (4) RF-7 III's for me. L, R, LC, RC. Blow holes in this theory as you will.
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Ultimately, it boils down to what sounds best to you. I've been experimenting a lot lately with toe-in, distance from side walls, back walls, etc. I've read, noticed, that a speaker aimed directly at you will yield a bump in the high frequencies enough to make the sound too bright. Pushing the mains back towards the wall behind them may yield more bass, but can sound punchy. I've also set the toe-in to just in front of my listening position and felt like I lost some staging and perceived SPL.
But this is in my room and with my mains. I keep gravitating back towards my mains aimed just slightly to the sides of my listening position, head. So, the direct axis line from the speakers is just to the left, and right, of my head. As far as being more towards left or right, I might play with the balance a bit to drop the left side a hair, and boost the right side slightly, to see if there's any improvement in imaging.
So, my suggestion is to try multiple placements, adjustments, until it sounds just right to you. Sometimes, a movement of half-an-inch can yield significant improvement. I used, am using, a tape measure to ensure equality with my main placement, and write down the measurements and perceived results. Experiment and have fun doing so. Just don't have too many adult beverages while experimenting, it can skew the results.
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I'm looking for an Audyssey ACM1 calibration mic for my Marantz SR 8002. I'm having no luck finding one. From what I understand the ACM1H and ACM1HB will not work as they are calibrated differently. Just wondering if anyone has one they're interested in selling. Thanks.
It should look something like this..
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Very nice! Thanks for the pics. Did you get to hear them? I wonder if someone will do an RF-7 II versus III comparison. I want these down the road but many guys have been touting the RP-280F's. Guess I'm going to have to go by the local stereo shop and try each of them on.
My Thoughts After Comparing the RF-7, RF-7 II and RF-7 III
in 2-Channel Home Audio
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Interesting, in my mind bi-amping would provide more driver control than a straight run. My amp is 125 x 2. So, my thought is that with bi-amping it would equate to 250 x 2 when set up. Am I wrong here? Not so much to overall volume, but again, control. Well, if I get a pair I'll have to try both scenarios. Looking forward to it. Just built some panels with Roxul 60 to quell the first order reflections. Next up are some bass traps with the same material. Wife hates them, but I think they add to the 'ambience'.
Nice room by the way.