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Putting the feelers out to see if anyone has one for sale before I go to the trouble of building a lilwrecker sub.

Thanks guys, it is easy to get a little too excited and not think clearly when you see what you think is a good deal on craigslist. I knew you'd set me straight!

I'll hold out for a pair of KP-450's or 456's

I think that I'll pass. Since I can't demo them the risk vs reward just isn't enough in my favor. Thanks to all for the advice!

I'd called him when he had them listed at $300 and he wouldn't come down, he states in his ad that he will part them in a couple of days if he can't get the $265 for them. I kinda doubt he'll go $200. I may call him up and take a look at them. Funny you mention them as garage speakers, that is one of the applications I had in mind.

The cabinets are in good shape, all pics are with grilles off and the woofers look like they are in good shape. The owner says that he has no electric in the storage locker.

There are a pair of KP-301's on Craigslist for $265 dollars, one of them needs a new mid diaphragm (under $50) The owner of these has them in a storage locker, and has no way to hook them up for me to test before I buy. He had them at $300 but just dropped them to $265 today. Would I be crazy to buy these without being able to first test them?

Go with a horn subwoofer, never look back. Ultra low distortion!

check for loose front and rear panel. Check for cracked tweeter and midrange horn (would be evidence of not being transported properly.

Thanks I think I am suspecting sarcasm maybe or not?? No sarcasm at all. Those subs look great in your room, all that copper looks distinctive. I'll bet it sounds excellent….congrats man, I think you made a great decision on the Klipsch. Well thank you very much. That was one of the main reasons for even looking at them was all the semi matching copper cones. Plus I have had good luck with all my other klipsch speakers for the last 15 years. I am hoping it will sound awesome. Not sure how my neighbors in my apartment are gonna feel about this. Lol but what do you da,sorry neighbors. Did you just place the subs next to your speakers and call it good, or did you check for other better placement options throughout the room? Rarely do subs sound best where they look best

I'll be building one here soon, and it sounds like because of you we now know the tested capabilities of the FI Q 15, so I'll be using that woofer.

I'm wondering how these 4 subs would compare to 2 lilmike Lilwreckers (tapped horn) seems the cost would be about the same if not a bit cheaper for the Lilwreckers.

I'm eagerly awaiting your findings

Get some emotiva XPR-1's and call it a day.

http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/ele/3939334101.html

Now they're going for 275.00

The topping t-60 does 80 watts a channel, so each CF-4 would be seeing about 160 watts. A 98db sensitive speaker needs about 100 watts to hit 90dbs at 15 feet. Seems like insane volume levels would be easy to hit even if judging skeptically/conservatively the amplifier output (80 watts into 2 channels) and the CF-4 sensitivity (102 db). I would also be crossing over the CF-4's at 50 hertz.

I'm looking at separate amplifiers for my CF-4's. I love the efficiency of class T amplifiers and really like the Topping TP60. The only issue is that most T amps can't be bridged so I would simply biamp each CF-4 with a TP-60. The CF-4's are supposedly 102db sensitive, but even if you drop the sensitivity to a more likely ~98db a TP60 should easily be able to power a CF-4 to insane levels. Is there a reason I wouldn't do this? CLARIFICATION: I would use two of the TP60's, one for each CF-4.

When I owned klf-30's I used pl premium gooped into the interior corners where it was coming undone. It seemed to work great. I just did a Google search for "pl premium melamine" and found many links to wood workers and cabinet makers saying that PL Premium works great for bonding melamine. On an unrelated note, over the last couple of years I have been using pl premium for many odd jobs, even patching a leaking gas tank on my van and it has yet to have a bonding failure. A truly amazing adhesive!

I'm trying to plan for when I add surround speakers to my bedroom theater. I have a set of RSX-5's that I could use, but would there be a better option? I do want to wall mount. Any suggestions are welcome. Thanks!

The Denon techs have you on a wild goose chase. They can't figure out the problem, so in their eyes it must be your speakers.

I'm literally about 10 minutes from these and would be happy to check them out for someone and arrange shipping. http://minneapolis.craigslist.org/wsh/ele/3815351433.html

I don't know anything about the Alto amp. How much is it? If it were me I would go for the XPA-2 over this. The XPA-2 puts out 300+ watts a channel and has been used by enough people to know that it's a solid performer. I know the XPA-2 is rated as the same 32db gain as the XPA-5 but for some reason it does not produce as much hiss as the XPA-5. I can also vouch for the Acurus. I heard one matched to RF-7's. I know pro amps can sound good, my QSC sounds great - I just have never heard of the Alto. It may be a wonderful amp and if you've heard it then great. If you're going out on a limb, I would go with one of the other recommendations.Thanks for the input. The Alto amplifier is $200 which is definitely very friendly. I'm seeking info from alto about these amplifiers (concerning fan noise) if it feels like too much of a gamble I'll just hold off until I can afford something better. I would love to get into a couple of class D, G, or H amplification.

These would fit your post to a tee. They are also on the list of sale items that started today. XPA100 Sale That is right in line with what I am looking for! Thanks for the recommendation!

Sorry about that, I read the first few sentences and the last few and missed the part about needing balanced inputs. No problem. I'm leaning towards the Alto apx1000. It is class D, ultra powerful, no crazy bells and whistles, sleek look (amplifiers will be displayed on top of each CF-4) and they have removable rack ears. The only downside is that I'll have to use an unbalanced to balanced conversion plug until I switch to the balanced output preamp. Reviews on this amplifier look good. Here's a link to the amplifier http://altoproaudio.com/products/apx1000