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The safest way would be to play a brief passage of bass heavy music and then power everything down - reverse the wires for one speaker and replay the same passage. If position one has more bass than position two then position one is in phase - otherwise position two is the in-phase setup. This works simply because out of phase bass signals will tend to cancel each other. The effects of out of phase midrange and tweeter are less obvious,(initially). Running speakers out of phase results in a less than satisfactory bottom end and a muddy mid/high end. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Sniff Aren't they just a little outre old top? Doesn't do to flaunt one's capital after all! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That'll unsettle the blighter - They were supposed to be mine. I mean I even had a buyer lined up for the kids and the cat for crying out loud! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Dang I wish you could be able to talk to my wife. Just kidding she's a gooder. I suggest using your vacuum cleaner on a low setting and using a soft round brush to carefully vacuum the dust away. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

You might find that placing the Cornwalls along a sidewall will give a more satisfactory soundstage. In my case I started with a pair of KLF30's placed in the corners and the bass was astounding but I later moved them onto a side wall and found that although I sacrificed some bass response - the overall sonic balance improved and the improvement in the midrange and upper end,(a lack of midrange blare and a huge improvement in the overall naturalness in the soundstage),is such that I would not ever again place the speakers in the corners of the room. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

skaloumbakas I think that you have allowed you enthusiasm for your site to get a little out of hand. Might I suggest that you confine yourself to responses to items posted here and back off a bit on what seems to be advertising for your site? FWIW - I have seen several systems on your site that make me drool ---- but I too think that enough is enough and that you run the risk of alienating members of this forum with the sheer volume of your posts flaunting systems that most of us cannot hope to aspire to. That said your site is fun to browse. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Shalom You would not believe how good that sounds on a pair of 30's!! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Apology accepted and: Those 30's are lovely -especially in mahogany- Aren't they I repeat I am happy that you can now enjoy your KLF30's as I am able to. They are absolutely delicious. The hatchet is buried for all time - or at least until one of gets old! An old Irish Blessing: May you be in heaven an hour before the devil knows your dead>> > > > > > > > > > > And may the Last voice you hear be mine ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

I have had a recently had a bit of a head butting session with one our members regarding the effects of aging upon our appreciation of high end audio and music/entertainment. I am curious to know what other members believe regarding this issue and to find out how many of our members are 50+ ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

I am not worried about getting old. I simply suggest that getting less useful or less intelligent is not a function of aging. The older I get the less inclined I am to accept the prejudices that come with "common knowledge." What I take offence to - Is the notion that anyone who is pushing 90 is by definition an "Old Bag" and that by definition everyone under 50 is by definition smarter than anyone who is not. Your response implies that any fossil who finds your attitude offensive is merely being defensive. It is tempting to suggest that you should not be around long enough to test your theory - but in fact I hope you live long enough to re-examine your attitude and come to understand that as you say - age has nothing to do with it. George Burns said it best, "You can't help getting older - But you do not have to get old!" I can only surmise as to your age - but I would suggest that your thinking suggests a far more rigid attitude about the assumed mental effects/defects that result from aging than is held by many of us who are older. Like the old lady in the Willard Scott anecdote above - "Consider the alternative - You Damned Fool!" In any event - This dialogue is unlikely to resolve anything and I will stop harrassing you and go back to drooling in my gruel between shifts at the IT department. AKA - Those 30's are lovely -especially in mahogany- Aren't they! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Hello Dere Mr. Blorry Your sniping at those of us who you seem to think have outlived our usefulness is getting a little "old" to say the least. I am just shy of 60 and recently purchased a decent audio system which includes a pair of KLF30's and a tube amplifier. I also just recently trained as a computer technician,(having first achieved CompTia A+ certification by self-study), and now spend 60 hours a week tending to the maintainance needs of approximately 800 users and the 200 +/- printers and plotters used by them. I submit that there are folks with a lot less mileage on them that would find keeping up with this "fossil" something of a a chore. As for Matlock - I doubt that I have watched more than a dozen episodes,( but do not be too quick to dismiss Andy Griffith though- The man can act and can have me or you ROTFLMAO when he needs to). As for The Golden Girls - I suggest that if you were to stop snorting and"listen to the dialogue you might be suprised at the sophistication of the writing and the acting involved. I recently wound up on the Scheize list with my next door neighbours for waking them up at 5:00 A.M. while getting ready for work and listening to Paulette Carlson singing Loving on the Side on the Will The Circle Be Unbroken V.II disc. All the doors and windows of my house were closed and I had no idea that my KLF's were rattling their windows on the next lot Remember - Inside every Old man is a Young man wondering "What the Hell Happened??" My favourite Blooper cut shows Willard Scott interviewing a wizened up old lady at a nursing home who was sitting in front of a large Birthday Cake. Willard asks - "Mother Wilson - How does it feel to know that you are 104 years old today?" - She turned her head to look at him and in a scratchy but clear voice snarled - "Consider the alternative You Damned Fool!" Willard threw back his head and laughed so hard he dropped his microphone! Older does not mean stupider,(or smarter), - It simply means - born sooner. P.S. I am happy to learn that you are now able to enjoy your 30's as much as I enjoy mine! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE) This message has been edited by lynnm on 11-18-2001 at 06:29 PM

May You be in Heaven an hour before the devil knows you are dead! And may the Last voice you hear be mine!! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

What is the problem here? This user seems to be promoting his personal vision of high end audio and also asking us to take a look at a site that promotes that vision. I have not seen anything in his posts that denigrate Klipsch speakers or the owners of Klipsch speakers. I agree that many/most of the systems that site describes are "over the top" but when I look at many of the systems my fellow forum members describe I find myself shaking my head and thinking that some of those systems must have cost damned near the GDP of some third world countries. I buy the odd copy of the Robb Report and have seen descriptions of $90,000 watches and $1,000,000 per pair speaker systems and found myself thinking that even if I had the money - I wouldn't spend that kind of Do-Re-Mi on a stereo setup. That said -- I find myself drawn to reading/fantasising about ridiculously expensive watches and Audio. Give the guy a break!! Most of the systems described on that site are twighlight zone and are far more exotic than most of us could ever think of owning or even wanting --- SO WHAT!! If this needs to be turned into a p***ing contest I am sure that some major league p***ers could be recruited to show off systems that would cause them there folks in Greece to gasp and swear off anything other than live music. That'd teach 'em! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Here is a link for Ultra High Fidelity Magazine with pricing information. If you are unsure about the subscription route you may be able to find a copy at an Audio store in your area or at a "big box" book and magazine retailer such as Amazon.com If you buy a single copy and do not find the Magazine interesting then you are only out the single issue price - On the other hand you may find that the magazine is interesting enough that a subscription is worth the price: http://www.uhfmag.com I do not suggest for a moment that they are the be all and end all of Audio magazines - I Simply like this magazine. On the other hand you may decide it is not for you. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Justin_tx_16 Ultra High Fidelity Magazine has been around since 1982 and unlike some other "Audiophile" magazines is prepared to look at audio that is not available only to those of you in "The Millionare's Club" This is not to say that they do not get a little over the top at times - but even I have been able to purchase an amp they have recommended,(an AQ1003 Integrated Tube Amplifier by Antique Sound Lab - That thing is pure Ambrosia) . They seem to have a bias toward Tube Amplifiers,(as do I), but also give serious attention to all High Fidelity components and are not the least bit shy about calling a POS a POS whether it be tube driven or transistor driven. They are also prepared to suitably praise a good piece of gear regardless of the underlying technology. The technical articles are excellent and are written in such a way that most of the information is accessible and useful to most audio enthusiasts. well worth a look. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE) This message has been edited by lynnm on 11-16-2001 at 12:51 AM

A further note: I live in a 100 year old bungalow with Fir floors and a lovely wife who would BBQ MY BUTTOCKS,(In a New York Minute!!),if I ever spiked my KLF 30's into said floors. My speakers are spiked and I still get some Slap and Tickle,(or as much as I at my age am up to - getting old is a pain in the butt but when I consider the alternative...). Here is how I satisfied both my need for Sonic perfection,, and physical survival: I went to my nearest hardware superstore and purchased a 12"x12" granite tile and a small stone bit,(1/8"). I also purchased a package of "Blue-Tack". The granite tile was priced at C$12.00 and the price included enough cuts to have the tile cut into 9 square pieces. The Blue-Tac cost me about C$5.00 but even here could have been found for about C$2.25. I drilled a hole about half-way through each square at its mid-point and then applied a pea sized ball of Blue-Tac to the underside. The spikes are fitted into the drilled holes and adjudsted as necessary to provide a stable platform - I live in a 100 year old house and that is definitely an issue Old House/New House the basic laws of Physics/Acoustics apply and for that; - I refer you to the link I provide in my earlier post. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Placing speakers on spikes actually reduces the vibration imparted to the floor. This sounds anti-intuitive because one would expect that creating an even stronger mechanical bond to the floor would increase said vibration but the reverse is nonetheless true. It has to do with the way that mechanical vibration behaves as it travels through a conductor. The article in the following link gives an explanation that does not require a doctorate in acoustical engineering to understand,(unlike damned near anything else I have read regarding this subject) - BTW their magazine and books are excellent. DOH !! - Forgot to post the link,(all too frequently heard sound of palm slapping forehead): http://www.uhfmag.com/Features/Feature.html ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE This message has been edited by lynnm on 11-15-2001 at 08:42 PM

James D McCall "Geez, it's,(Stereophile),the only audio rag I can afford!!!" You might want to consider Ultra High Fidelity Magazine. This Canadian audio magazine has been around since the 80's and while they too get carried away with themselves betimes,in general,I find the content and reviews more "real world" than most audio magazines. I think you will find the subscription price reasonable at $50.00 for 13 issues,(2 years as they publish every other month). You can take a look for yourself at: http:\\www.uhfmag.com ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE) This message has been edited by lynnm on 11-04-2001 at 01:12 PM

SHEESH !! What the HELLO is going on Here? Since when is it heretical to enjoy tube amps instead of solid state amps or fiber needles instead of steel needles ? For crying out loud folks !!! Tubes do a marvelous job on most things audio and Solid State amps also do a great job on most things audio. There are(some,not universally acceptable, arguments to be said regarding the TRUTH about high fidelity: THE SOURCE OF ALL WISDOM PRONOUNCETH!! : If ye hear the best it is not thy duty to lead all the unwashed to Nirvanna - Point them to Nirvanna and hope that they see the path. If they refuse to see THE TRUTH - Then let them wallow in their Solid State Nirvanna or in their Tube Nirvanna. I love Tubes and being something of a Babylonian Bimbo I have to confess that I have at times enjoyed SS amps. GET OVER IT!! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

I agree - very nice piece! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

I finally got my AQ1003DT.It sounded glorious with my KLF-30's but it cratered on the fourth day I had it. When I took it back to my dealer,(Pete Segstro at "The Audio Room in Calgary), the first thing he said was I'll have to send this back to Montreal but I'll give you something decent to use until it gets back-This without being asked!! That is Customer Service!! When I get back from work tonight I'll be hooking up a Rega 35 w./ch integrated. The ASL/KLF-30 combination,(notwithstanding the breakdown),is everything I expected and more ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE) This message has been edited by lynnm on 10-23-2001 at 08:22 PM

LOL As much as I would like to argue I have to admit that the bass notes that I heard on a recently borrowed CD,(The Celtic Album - The Boston Pops under the direction of Keith Lockhart cut #4 - The theme from Braveheart), actually scared me because I wondered if even the KLF30's could reproduce so much sustained and high-powered bass without damage. This disk is worth a listen,(especially track 4! - This Ain't yoh daddy's Boston Pops!!) I will probably keep the Hitachi and use its exceptionally good tuner and phono sections. Thanks for your response. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

Here's the deal! I am using/loving KLF30's. I have an old Hitachi SR-2004 SS receiver that has a class G output setup,(200 watt rms into 8 ohms/400 watts rms on peaks). I recently purchased an Antique Sound Lab AQ1003DT tube amplifier (dead at the moment SOB- but that is another story). I found the AQ to be marvelous from top to bottom,(until it tanked),but the idea of bi-amping has always appealed to me. The AQ is going in for warranty repair regardless but since I know that the old Hitachi will not bring a lot of bucks and IS incredibly powerful and clean in the low ranges - I am considering using it for the bottom end and using its tuner and phono sections in conjunction with the AQ. Q1. If I went that route - How do I balance the low frequency power output of the Hitachi with the AQ ? I want to utilise the Hitachi's awesome low end capabilities but I do not wish to artificially emphasise the bass. Q2. I am thinking of using the Pre-Amp stage of the Hitachi for phono so that I can revisit my vinyl. See Q1. Any suggestions/comments are welcome. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

FWIW I use a pair of KLF 30's on a purely 2 Channel Stereo system. I recently replaced my "zip cord" wires with 12 guage wires and noticed a small improvement in sound quality. I then Bi-Wired with 12 guage and percieved another slight improvement. I then upgraded my amplifier and CD player and heard a truly "SIGNIFICANT" improvement. All things considered - I suggest that upgrading your source components has a much larger effect than upgrading your speaker cabling. I think that you would not hear any appreciable benefit by "upgrading" to a "better" cable for your rear speakers. ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

That is really decent wire but be warned: Should you accidently let off a f**t while listening to Klipsch KLF30's speakers at high spl's the magnoconductant coincidence may result in a synergistic coupling of ozonic hyperoxygenized yeast ions and the BeeGees version of Jive Talking and may thereby cause an explosion of truly mythic proportions should I be within audible range. Fortunately this effect can only occur when the listener is running KLF 30's and an Antique Sound Lab AQ 1003DT amplifier and drinking vintage home made wine - (It must have aged for something over 6 days)! I offer this only as a public service because I never f**t and in any event none of my home made wine ever has had the opportunity to age that long. THE REST OF YOU BE FOREWARNED! ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)

LOL It looks as if we Canucks are taking over this thread,(or at least about 66% of it) ------------------ It is meet to recall that the Great Green Heron rarely flies upside down in the moonlight - (Foo Ling ca. 1304 BCE)