hetmann

The guy didn't get a single bid. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogsc>

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Well you could certainly make some stands out of veneered plywood, basically a box and finish to match your speakers. For added stability, you could fill them with sand or other material. You could make them simple or fancy. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogsc>

I've got two sets of khorn plans. Contact me offline if interested. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogsc>

I was under the impression that you do not want to apply signal to a woofer (K33) that is not in a seal enclosure because it could get damaged. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogsc>

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Khorns of course! And moondogs.... http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/Boys01.JPG ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

As a matter of fact, I had a full page print out of this very jpeg on my workbench when I was building my kits. I also had pictures of Jazman's amps there to inspire me too. The pictures were worth "a 1,000 words" in addition to the construction manual. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Beyond the ability to follow instructions and basic soldering, skills needed are: 1) fairly good eysight - some parts have little tiny numbers/markings on them 2) good manual dexterity/motor skills - you will need to fit the later components in and not damage or melt anything in the process 3) patience - to do a good job and check/recheck your work Ron W. was helpful in answering questions by email. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Well I'm coming to the end of the tunnel on this one. Here are a few more pics: http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/moondog_construction_10.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/moondog_construction_12.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/moondog_construction_13.jpg Just a few comments. This is a well engineered kit. The instructions were complete and moved straight through the process. Kudos to Ron Welborne. I was hampered by a few missing parts, but nothing major. The kit is supposed to take 8-10 hours to complete. It took me well over 25 hours to get to the point you see in the last pic. Most construction steps were relatively easy to complete and some were astonishingly difficult. More experienced builders may know better techniques and may skip back and forth through the construction steps to simplify things. It will be a day or so before I close these up and apply voltage. I want to double check my work and make sure nothing is touching where it shouldn't be. I'll report back when I fire them up. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

I've finnaly started construction of my Moondogs. I thought I would post some pictures of my progress. http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/moondog_construction_01.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/moondog_construction_02.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~j.dutczak/moondog_construction_09.jpg ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

I am in the process of constructing my Moondogs. I decided on the 8 ohm tap. Thanks for your help. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

What is the input impedance of a khorn using an AA crossover? ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Sounds to me like you have an open ground. Make sure your power cord has a third prong and that the unit is properly grounded. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Nicely done! Thanks for sharing. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

I was wondering if the bass cabinet for a khorn or lascala would benefit from smoothing the corners where the horn bends with some type of fillet and a coat of shellac (or some other finish) on the interior surfaces of the horn. It seems that this would present a harder, smoother and more reflective surface for the sound waves than the plywood surface. Obviously, this would be easiest to do during construction. What do you think? ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

While I can't add much to the vinyl debate, I can second that my HT setup isn't great for music. I have a big Denon receiver and all Klipsch speakers (various models of KG). Love it for movies, but usually want to get up and do something else when listening to music. "Live" setting is best, but still not as engaging as a great 2-channel setup. I do have an old turntable put away in it's box. Fairly nice heavy Kenwood (concrete with big heavy metal platter) of mid 70's vintage with a strobe etc. How would you guys approach determining if it is worth keeping and using or scrapping. I have some old favorites on vinyl I haven't heard in years. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Why on earth would anybody paint several coats of thick white paint on their expensive Klipsch speakers? Next thing we'll be pondering is how to remove that pesky stucco finish. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Yes indeed they are lovely and fit appears to be top notch. I am pursuing my own khorn project and not having any real ones at my disposal I decided to build a pair of half size prototypes using scrap material and quarter inch birch ply. Although I have 2 sets of plans, I followed the Speakerlab plans, due to their higher level of detail. At first, the pieces went together quite well. Unlike bigdnfay, I did not have the foresight to dry fit everything first, so I was screwing and gluing as I went along. Anyway, as these things go, you find out later what you could have done different before. Any errors in fit or alignment get amplified as construction proceeds. I did get them finished, but lets say they have a little more glue and chalk in some joints than I would have liked. My mini khorns are 2-way. 8" woofer and little horn tweeter that I bought from a radioshack.com nearby that was closing. Cheap-o drivers with a 2-way cheap-o crossover. The sound? Not klipsch, but they do play loud and are a lot better than my previous shop speakers. These are not throwaway by any means. I will post my progress with my full size project as I can. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

I don't remember what I paid exactly, but I figured that was as cheap as they'd ever be. I think they were discounted 20%. I was able to pick them up since I live in Denver, so I didn't have to pay shipping and I got to meet Ron W. I believe all the tubes supplied are Sovtek. They are all in their red and white boxes. I have been building a variac to assist me in firing these up when I am ready. That has been a project in itself. I have seen pictures of guts in Jazman's amps and another built by Ron Welborne so I know what neatly constructed Moondogs look like. That's what I am shooting for. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

I bought a pair of Moondogs when Ron had his 7 day sale. The timing wasn't great for me, but I couldn't pass up the deal. They are still unassembled and came with the Sovtek 2A3s. I was going to add the teflon sockets that come with the "ultimate upgrade" kit as part of the assembly to avoid extensive disassembly later. However, when I found out the cost of the scokets, I thought again. So I will be building them stock. I am waiting for a week when my wife a daughter go out of town to assemble these. Lots of peace and quiet and noone needing the table while I have things spread out. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs This message has been edited by hetmann on 05-26-2002 at 08:33 AM

Thanks for your considered opinions. I was thinking of hot rodding one of these with modern parts, upgraded switches, connectors and stepped attenuator. It seems as though everyone raves about their eicos. I was thinking of going that route to get a retro kind of chassis and the iron. After getting some of your scoop here.... I think I might be better off with a modern kit preamp. I know this subject has been beat to death, but I'm new to this antique stuff having had solid state separates for all these years. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Does anyone have any experience with the eico hf-85? Would this preamp be worth restoring? Does it sound as good as the preamp built into the hf-81? ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Hide glue is highly prized in the building of stringed instruments for its many properties including shear strength. But one of the most important is that a hide glue joint can be disassembled safely with the application of a little heat and moisture (steam). This allows for future repairs to the instrument. ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs

Okay. I'm game. How do you make a mini-Cornwall? ------------------ Klipschorns and Moondogs