Grizzog
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BTW, INMHO the results are outstanding. To the naysayers, show me a Heritage product made in the last 10+ years that use phenolic diaphragms?
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John
Khorns and La Scalas.
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Congrats!
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For the Alnico magnets, I spoke with Bill at Great Plains. According to him, unless dropped or damaged in some way, the magnet should be fine. Ceramic is even harder to demagnetize.
I spoke with him when I had questions on my Altec 19s. Both woofers and tweeters have the Alnico magnets.
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20 hours ago, The Dude said:
Nice smoke ring. Here are some pics from our rib and chicken turn in last Saturday.
Can you send some of those over? I'll judge them, free of charge.
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Not really what I got...but what I made. Pecan and applewood smoked ribs.
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In the case of subwoofers, isn't modulation distortion even less of an issue? When Paul wrote his papers, he was talking about 60hz and 250 or something close to that. Most subwoofers only play to 80hz and in many cases even less than that.
What is the modulation distortion in a speaker that only plays ~40hz of the audible spectrum? (20-60hz)
As @derrickdj1 stated, the distortions people are mentioning are only at very loud levels. At normal listening levels, well-built modern direct radiator subs should be virtually distortion free. Horn-loading will always be better, but in a normal listening room, large direct radiating subs can do the job. I think it is important not to outright dismiss a certain sub just because of bias. There are good and bad speakers of every category. Perhaps it is also important to note that Klipsch only makes a couple horn-loaded subs in the pro line that are absolutely huge. Even there, direct radiators are more prevalent.
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Can you send over a set of forte III? This will be for scientific evaluation against the forte I and Chorus II.
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Similar experience with most any Best Buy and any speakers. There was one time they actually had some B&W hooked up correctly.
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I had Heresy IIIs and agree something is most definitely
wrong. Those are plenty clear.
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@grizzog there's a blog post on the sixes at http://www.klipsch.com/blog/sixes-powered-speakers-first-impression/
Beautiful speakers. Says it's a review, however neither the speakers or turntable are hooked up....
Saw that one...
Not much of a review. :-(
"Sounds great."
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The answer on this forum is to ALWAYS go bigger!
But like @RoboKlipsch asked, it really is about what you plan to do with them.
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I've heard a difference with break-in.
On speakers, I guess it's a question of whether the speaker broke in or I was getting used to it - either way, there was a perceptible change.
As far as subwoofers, definitely. When new, I would have the gain on my subs much higher than after they had broken in. Daily I would slowly bring down the volume and still have the same impact.
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1 hour ago, Jay L said:
I think 15 ft.
Awesome, thank you! I'd have to agree, that would cover 99% of usage.
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5 hours ago, Jay L said:
1. very, very close to identical on the horn, tweeter/pp are different
2. no, completely different
3. long enough for 99%
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OK, since no one else has, I'll bring up The Sixes.
I'm excited for these and think they'll make a great tabletop/desk setup. I actually preordered a pair for my computer setup. From the pictures, they look great and different from most speakers you see if this size/type.
@Jainbaby I had a few questions if you're able to answer them.
Is the horn the same as used on the RP-160M? Looks to be a different phase plug, but utilizing the horn and titanium diaphragm.
Is the woofer the same as used in the R-26F, but not copper?
How long will the cable be to connect the two speakers?
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I used to be exit 82 - parkway. Nice stereo store near there
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@Jainbaby that is looking like a solid design. Doesn't seem like a huge cabinet, but has that type of brace work. Thumbs up!
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Family room/TV.
Chorus II, RC-64II, R-115SW
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The 7s are worth 2x the 280s. Not 4x. Besides bass, there are levels more detail. The price difference is for made in USA, real wood veneer, and a true compression driver.
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That's difficult to say. Since prices were already shown at CES, a significant increase may be a tough sell. At $3k, the fifteens sound like they are in a sweet spot. At $4k (just a guess) then you've got to think a bit harder. $3k and made in USA would be awesome. $3,500 I'd say is still good. But at that price it is right next to the forte and close to the Cornwall.
I guess it is a question of how much more...
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I really don't see the issue with @Jainbaby's comments about tone and speed. These make perfect sense. Is it an issue with terminology?
For those of us with Heritage/extended heritage speakers, we know full well the benefits of a large low-mass cone.
The Altec 19 uses a very low-mass cone crossed at 1200hz and is absolutely fantastic.
PWK said the midrange is where we live. Sounds to me this is what The Fifteens are aiming for - they don't need to plumb the depths of the earth or reach past the upper limits of hearing. Tone is getting at the important pieces of the music and making it sound real.
I, for one, am extremely excited for The Fifteens and the Forte III. The Forte brings back the original spirit/sound of Klipsch, and The Fifteens go for that as well as bringing the old world charm with today's tech.
Count me as one that is extremely pleased with the direction of multiple portions of Klipsch.
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I will post an update tomorrow, but these are scheduled to be picked up in the morning.
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You've got to pay for them just like I did[emoji6]
This is for research only. :-)
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Chorus II on ebay
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Besides the fact that the finish is toast, the ripped radiator really destroys it.