MMurg
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44 minutes ago, PrestonTom said:
There are so few that come up for sale that it is hard to guess on price.
I've purchased a bunch of used Palladium speakers over the past few years. For most of them I paid just under or at half of the retail price.
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I'd definitely be interested in the P27-C center and one P312-W subwoofer (maybe both) if you decide to split up the set. (Sorry, but I already own a set of every Palladium tower model and can't fit any more. 🙂) I'm in eastern PA, so I'm definitely within pick up distance.
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22 minutes ago, Jones said:
I wish the survey had at least one more option: I like it, but haven't done it yet. I like the RP 500 sa as something that would sit on top of the towers and project sound off the ceiling. (I wish those would go on sale like the r41sa has.) However, my HT room and ceiling has odd dimensions. It is a new room, not quite finished-like I still need to mount the TV, etc. Do you think it is OK to bounce sound off of 2 different ceiling angles?
I'm pretty sure that the ceiling bounce speakers (aka Atmos-enabled) need a flat ceiling of somewhat average height. I found this in one of the installation guides (https://www.dolby.com/siteassets/technologies/dolby-atmos/atmos-installation-guidelines-121318_r3.1.pdf):
Room treatment considerations for use of Dolby Atmos enabled speakersFor optimal performance, the ceiling should be flat (not angled or vaulted), with a height between 7.5 and 14 feet (2.3 to 4.3 meters), and made of an acoustically reflective material (drywall, plaster, hardwood, or another rigid, non---sound-absorbing material). The ideal ceiling height is between 7.5 and 12 feet (2.3 to 3.66 meters).
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Thanks for the replies and apologies to @Kalifornianfor somewhat hijacking his topic. It's really the same question. Now I will sit back and lurk unless I think of another relevant question.
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1 hour ago, PrestonTom said:
Yes, you will need four channels of amplification.
My suggestion was to simply use what you have on hand or what you can either borrow, or pick up for cheap on Craigslist. My store room may look different than yours, Over the years I have accumulated quite a bit of gear that is now just laying around. I sometimes assume that others have my same bad habits.
-Tom
No, I don't have spare amps lying around. So, I'm asking people for recommendations on what to buy. I'd rather not just buy whatever I can find on Craigslist, etc. and then have it lying around or reselling it. I'm not someone who turns over gear all the time.
15 minutes ago, The Dude said:If you are in a hurry and up for the build, check Madison Sound.
https://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com
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Interesting. Those look like something I might be able to build. The NC400 kit doesn't seem as good a value for the money as the Buckeye amps but if might be an option if I need them quickly.
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19 minutes ago, PrestonTom said:
Honestly, you are going to have a full plate when the Jubilees arrive.
Personally, I would concentrate on getting them set up in your room and adjusting & re-adjusting their locations and the the location of the seating area. The issue of amplifiers (within reason), will simply be "frosting on the cake" and not really a major concern. Get used to the Jubilee sound first and then go from there.
Good luck,
-Tom
I have not seen an information about the Heritage Jubilee coming with any amplification. The DSP is included but I'm pretty sure I still have to purchase 4 channels of amplification before they arrive.
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I have a preorder in for a pair of Heritage Jubilee. Should I be considering these Buckeye amps for that system? They are much more affordable than some recommendations I gotten.
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I put Crites tweeters in my KLF-20, KLF-30, KLF-C7, and a Heresy II that I was using as a center. I was pleased with the results.
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9 minutes ago, Chief bonehead said:
Actually I call it an extended wide dispersion phase plug but what do I know.....🙂
I'm corrected a second time. @Chief bonehead, since you designed it I'll call it what you call it. 🙂
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18 minutes ago, PrestonTom said:
Just on a cautionary note. Do you think the 2050's that Klipsch buys (and perhaps modifies) are same quality as the ones that Parts Express buys? Do you think that Klipsch might require certain modifications on the 2050's when they buy them? Something to consider.
Don't know if there are any internal differences from a stock 2050 for the new Heritage Jubilee. However, there is an external acoustic horn lens being used with it. (Thanks @Chris A for clarifying that the phase plug terminology used in the video is incorrect.)
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56 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:
Roy wrote it, or at least provided the name for it. He showed you what beaming was in the class you were at when you got off axis, and I believe in comparing a prior model to a current model.
That doohickey that Roy calls a (convoluted name that I can't remember goes here) Phase Plug, dramatically increases the frequency where the drivers start to "beam."
Whether it's a lens, phase plug, or something with a Dr. Suess name, I'm confident that Roy made the correct design decisions about it and that the new Jubilee will sound phenomenal.
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2 minutes ago, Chris A said:
Roy has already stated that the YouTube video is in error due to showing the Jubilees outside of room corners--which are still required. (He said the marketing guys took a few liberties in the video without asking him first.) If you were thinking about buying a pair and pulling them away from the room corners--think again. Adding the horn lens change is just a small concern as compared to that error.
Chris
LOL. That was a ridiculous gaff. Mine are going in the corners. Already asked Roy a bunch of questions about placement in my room (with pictures) in a Facebook group thread. He's so great about answering people's questions.
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7 minutes ago, Chris A said:
That's not a phase plug--it's actually an acoustic horn lens--mounted at the horn throat entrance.
Phase plugs are important to prevent high frequency cancellations, while horn lenses are used to spread out the polars via "refraction".
The only issue is that you also get unavoidable diffraction from horn lenses--just like the optical varieties do, too. It's a toss up whether the diffraction overcomes the refraction capabilities of the horn lens.
Chris
Well, then complain to whoever wrote the text for the video because that's what it says. 🙂
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1 minute ago, babadono said:
Careful it maybe modified by the chief.
Not sure if there is any internal change but for sure the chief has added an external phase plug.
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47 minutes ago, babadono said:
not if you have an expander
I always want to hear one of those dbx dynamic range expanders to see if they really worked and if they introduced any problems (added noise, distortion, etc.).
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47 minutes ago, Schu said:
the overall dynamic range is fixed at the recording... is it not?
I only see attenuation and intensification of portions of the range that already exists... when using 'tone controls' or 'filters', unless I am already missing something.
though, as C has said many times in the past... if you de master, then perhaps there is room for clarification and understanding.
Are you talking about the Jubilee DSP? The controls on the Jubilee DSP don't seem to be 'tone controls' or 'filters' (i.e. for adjusting the the frequency balance of a recording). The rendering of the DSP in the CES video labels the controls as "gain". I think they are just to adjust the gain on the signals going to the HF and LF amps to account for gain mismatches. Perhaps @Chief bonehead can verify this...
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51 minutes ago, Schu said:
I am still left wondering how adding tone controls to a system ADD's dynamic range...
Not sure what you mean. The DSP had HF and LF gain controls which I assume are there to adjust for any amp gain differences if one tries to use different amps for HF and LF.
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13 minutes ago, dwilawyer said:
Mike you drew that?
No. I commissioned it. It was done by Paul Lazarou, a tattoo artist from Down Under (https://www.instagram.com/p.laz.tattoo/). He posted a similar La Scala drawing to one of the Klipsch Facebook groups a while back that he did for fun and I liked it. So, I asked him to do the Palladium drawing (my current profile pic) and now I asked him to do a Jubilee drawing since I'm getting them. It should be arriving in the mail in a few days.
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5 minutes ago, JohnJ said:
125 dB/W @ 1M !
Yabba dabba do!
That's the max SPL at 1m. The sensitivity is - HF normalized to LF - 105dB/1m.
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3 minutes ago, Coytee said:
So you're looking to buy one of the new Anniversary version??!!
Excellent!! You DO know that if this happens for you, you need to provide a plethora of pictures on receiving, setting up and then listening opinions.
Of course. I'll post here and on some of the Facebook groups about it. I've already commissioned a new drawing that I'll make my new profile picture once they arrive and are set up. 🙂 https://www.instagram.com/p/CPj37d6Lh2s/
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1 minute ago, babadono said:
@MMurg AFAIK you're the only one that has ordered or admitted it. Did you go Walnut or Black Ash?
I started buying Klipsch in the '80s and for me Klipsch means beautiful wood veneer finishes. I never got why you would want to paint the veneer black. The only black Klipsch I own are models where there was no finished veneer choice. So, it won't be black. Whether it's walnut or the finish of another edition that @PrestonTom speculated about earlier in the this thread and others in the forum have hinted may or may not exist will depend on what that hypothetical finish may or may not look like. 🙂
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7 hours ago, PrestonTom said:
As far as I understand things, availability and pricing are not yet set in stone.
Certified Heritage Dealers have the pricing. I was given the pricing when I placed my preorder, so I think the pricing is set. No, I'm not going to reveal it unless someone from Klipsch or a dealer says the pricing is public knowledge. 🙂 However, I was not given any idea of availability. The wait is going to kill me.
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7 hours ago, PrestonTom said:
3) low frequency extends to a lower frequency (although no qualifiers are mentioned i.e., required placement or +/- values),
The +/- values are mentioned. They are just next to the specification name not the value:
FREQUENCY RESPONSE (+/- 3 dB) 18Hz – 20kHz -
I don't know if it's University of Arkansas approved but if it's just for note taking you may want to look at the Surface Go 2. You don't need the horsepower of a Surface Pro just to take notes. It's small, lightweight, and easy to carry. I love mine. I got the Intel Core M3/8 GB RAM/128 GB SSD model.
Thinking of selling my Palladiums...
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Just remember that if you don't sell it as one lot that I called dibs on the center for sure. 🙂 I'm less sure about the sub. I don't really "need" it for my office P-37F setup as I have a perfectly adequate SVS sub for that small room. It just that my OCD wants me to have a Palladium sub with all my Palladium systems and this is the only one that doesn't. 🙂