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I had the same box made by my friend, it's absolutely amazing! Glad I'm not the only one who feels the same way about 3 channel! Especially since my system doubles as my TV's speakers for television and movies it makes a huge difference with dialogue but also in music it really anchored the bass and the overall sound, especially on older poorly mixed stereo recordings that have exaggerated stereo mix. The derived center is powered by a Marantz MA500 Monoblock I picked up on eBay that was in mint condition for super cheap about a month or so ago, it sounds so good and blends seamlessly with my Mac Integrated taking care of the KHorns. So the Lexicon had an analog 2CH stereo matrix mode to output a center ch and sub? I always thought the Lexicons just were simply SPDIF Surround decoders to discrete analog. That's cool. I have my REL Sub tapped off the Binding Posts of my MA5200 for the high level input via the wireless adapter, gives amazing bass that way. I really like how I'm able to keep the signal in analog and have a great 3.1 experience. Although I'm sure a very high end DSP/Decoder unit like the Lexicon will likely give even better results!

Good luck... I hope it works out for you! Do you plan on doing any kind of restoration to them like refinishing the wood, upgrading the x-overs, wiring and or the horns and woofer etc. if you get them? I've never heard the La Scala but by all accounts it's basically a "baby" Klipschorn with just a little bit less low end extension. Other than the KHorn probably one of if not the best dual purpose Movies/Music speaker you can buy to this day.

It's only a wall of sound if you want it to be. It images very well if the center is properly balanced. I get it's not for everyone, we all have our own taste. The stuff that was in the phantom actually just has a physical speaker present and your brain doesn't have to do the work to perceive it. And it blends in perfectly when dialed in, if the speakers "match" then it's really good. I love stereo but it isn't a perfect format, it has its flaws too. Lots of great music isn't mixed all that well. I found it fatiguing after awhile for the brain to process that center image all on its own for hours on end. A big reason why I stopped listening to headphones.

Cool stuff guys! Very nice. Yeah a while back I used to have a 5.1 B&W HT setup about 7-8 years ago, when I used to be into HT. I'm still into movies a lot but got more into stereo and now 3.1. I enjoy my Blurays that have 2CH DTS-MA tracks. Those are great. I forgot to mention modern AVRs, duh! lol I also frequently used to use the PLII and Neo Modes for music as well when I had the full HT setup in my old house, although I always preferred the DTS Neo for music as I found PLII modes at least on the Onkyo I was using at the same to be too center biased. It was one step above the base model Onkyo at the time so nothing special. Maybe it was just that receiver I had but I've also read some people preferring the old Dolby Surround and original Pro Logic I decoders for music. I bet PLII is a lot better on the HQ AVRs like Yamahas, Marantzs, Arcams, Anthems etc. The DTS modes are great tho. I never tried the DynaQuad setup, that must have been pretty neat too. I had Paul's RCA box made but with a passive level control for the center, I mostly set it and forget it at 50% for music listening sessions which makes about 6dB less than the L/R KHorns and it's really nice. For movies I just crank it to full like you mentioned Gary and that works really well for that. BTW that system sounds insane! An all heritage HT setup, amazing. Horns and movies how can you go wrong, the classic movie theater experience. I wanna pick up a couple of the 3 Channel Stereo SACD releases from Acoustic Sounds, there's 2 or 3 really nice Jazz titles that I'd like to own for sure. I've noticed a lot of the the older Jazz stuff I have on digital DSD downloads that were originally 3 track have a very strong phantom center and now with the Heresy center the center really comes alive in the recording. Also in movies where there is something moving fast in a scene from L to R or R to L. Previously you'd sort of notice the gap as it went across the screen where there was no speaker but now with Paul's box feeding my center ch Heresy's amp transition is seamless and really cool. DSP has gotten so good now a days, if you have a good AVR that's probably the way to go. I just don't own or use an AVR anymore, just a 2CH Mac Integrated and since I wanted to keep it, going for Paul's box and a separate small solid state mono amp was the way to go for me.

I Bet! Your system is lovely, clean and just perfect. Great choice on the classic walnut finish on the H III, looks wonderful with the gold PWK emblem.

Gotcha thanks for the help! Yeah I could see why people would want that feature! I totally agree with you lol. That was always annoying on other boards I used to be active on of varying subjects. ------------------------- Appreciate the help guys!

Just wondering how many of you guys or if there is anyone else that is into Paul's 3 channel L-C-R setup? I always kept stereo native 2CH in all the systems I've had over many years but when I got into Klipsch and horn speakers (and am I glad I did) I learned about 3CH after recently opening the manual of my KHorns again which described adding a center channel which sparked my curiosity and I did tons of research on it. Now mind you my KHorns are properly toed in, and my stereo image was excellent and phantom center effect was already good. But my curiosity took over. So I had a friend build me Paul's "Alum. Mini Box" exact to the schematics using high quality parts. And was able to acquire a matching Heresy. Since my system also doubles as my TV's speakers for Smart TV YouTube/Netflix etc., TV and movies, it really anchors the dialogue and makes it more believable sound like its coming right from the screen which I prefer. The stereo information on TV such as music and sound effects etc and sound stage is still very coherent and perfectly heard L and R. When listening to music adding a center channel really coupled with my KHorns bass beautifully and seamlessly, drums really filled out even more and it sounds so nice and filled in, same is true for when watching a movie or TV on it. Truthfully I wanted a La Scala but I couldn't make it work in my system due to the console, but the Heresy is just perfect, its tilt makes it hit right at my ears at the same height as my KHorns and It completely disappears and it doesn't stand out sonically at all... but when I turn it off I hear a big difference and prefer it on. But perhaps the biggest benefit has been increase in size of the "sweetspot" so I'm no able to sit in the most comfortable section of my mini sofa/love seat and be in the sweetspot. It's especially helpful on older rock and jazz music that has an exaggerated stereo mix where no phantom center stereo effect could fill the void like having a physical center does IMHO, it still flawlessly reproduces intentional hard left/right ambient effects in music. And on modern electronic genres where vocals and drums are often so dead center in the mix... without the center the drums and vocals are often awkwardly split down the L/R channels leaving a void. Even with the phantom center effect it's not enough for those genres as sometimes their mixes aren't the greatest as many of them (mainly the electronic) were mixed in nearfield with 2 monitors pretty close to each other so It's so much more enjoyable with a physical center and is just awesome. I know there are other ways to get the center too using various methods. Like with Meridians Trifiled DSP, Vintage Mac and Scott stuff I know had summed L/R center outs, SST Trinaural Processor, Dynaco QD-1/QD-2 Hafler Matrix Box, Older Receivers w/ Dolby "3 Stereo" Mode, older dedicated Prologic Processors and lastly some of the Carver Sonic Hologram stuff. I think that's pretty much all the methods I've learned of over the last few months reading up on it little by little. I'm also curious about experimenting with a center rear channel that is a L-R ambient "difference" channel on low volume, which I think would be pretty interesting. But I'm super happy with the L-C-R config. Anyone else into 3ch, 4ch, Quad or similar? I know it's not the most "purist" thing to do, so don't be too hard on me if you aren't into it lol! 🤬🤢 Thanks!!

It's not there, there is no signature option. Not sure why this forum is so restrictive.

Nonsense, don't forget we're in a Klipsch Forum after all. Many of us have PWK heritage speakers over 99db efficient. At 3-5 Watts on my MA5200 my system is already at ear piercing levels. You only need monstrous amounts of power if your speakers are 80 something db power pigs. Besides the first watt of power is the most important anyway... and many amp manufactures conservatively rate the power capability, McIntosh for example is known for this. This particular Schiit I'd be willing to bet probably does a little better than 20W into 8 ohms. In Mono Mode It'll do 80W into 8 ohms. Plenty of power for the vast majority of us on this forum. I'm sure it'll sound pretty good but I'm not too sure on how good the Schiit amps pair with the heritage stuff. For a hundred bucks more than buying 2 Aegirs you can sometimes find really nice condition older solid state stereo Mac amps. I've seen some on eBay and in some audio marketplaces in the low $2000s in excellent condition. Mac and Klipsch is a killer combo.

I can't figure it out either. I see something but it goes into an about me section and not my signature. I've been on lots of forums over the last 20 or so years but this has got to be one of the most awkward and strange ones as far as setting up your profile. Anyone know how to do this?

All things Klipsch Heritage and McIntosh are just a match made in heaven. It's as if they are meant for each other. The 60s/70s era Dynacos, Fishers and others like them are also really great too. But there is just something special about Klipsch and Mac.

I have the 70th KHorns and they are in my rooms corners pretty tight and tucked in but not as tight as I could get them since I have my heating baseboards running along the bottom of the wall. Thanks to the closed backs this was not an issue and the bass extension is simply awesome. It goes all the down to 35hz, It's articulate, tight, detailed and fast. Everything you want and nothing is missing or feels compromised. A big reason why I went with the 70s since they only need to be in the vicinity of a corner and not perfectly wedged in like the original open back design KHorn. I have seen the same type of modded older KHorns with the backs added on eBay like the OP said and have always wondered myself how they sound compared to a 70 or AK6.

Great to know! I'm into jazz and electronic myself. I'm looking into adding a 3 channel tube amp if I can find one, for my 3 channel LCR setup. Consisting of the 70th edition KHorns and a 70th Heresy. I've always been curious about Decaware's. Nearly bought one of their headphone amps a few years ago for my planar Audeze and Hifiman can.

I appreciate that. Thanks!

Congrats on the MA5300! I'm not surprised it made your Cornwall's sound awesome. I know your post is not new, but I'm fairly new as a Klipsch owner, about 2 years now and have always wanted to join this forum. I've been into audio for many years, but have never actually joined any audio forums besides Head-Fi as I used to be extremely into headphones and before that HT. But now that I finally own a house now, I rarely listen to my headphones anymore. I've been a lurker and reader for many years on various sites. But loving my all things Klipsch heritage I knew this was the forum to join. I don't get why so many audiophiles people hate on Mac. They make incredible amps. Their build quality is phenomenal, made here in the USA, first rate engineering, they sound amazing but look the part (unlike so much other stuff), Mac stuff holds its value and they stand behind their products and they last forever. What's not to like?? Oh and some of the other guys in here mentioned, they have controls that most other amp manufacturers have done away with years ago. Personally I love an integrated as I'm a believer in keeping the signal chain as short as possible, I understand the argument and merits to a separate preamp, but for me integrateds are the way to go... especially a Mac one. Not boutique enough for some people? I don't get it. I'll never apologize for enjoying and liking McIntosh stuff. It's funny some people say the same about Klipsch, they just don't take Klipsch seriously. Or repeat the stupid stereotype of all horns sounding like your hands cupped around your mouth. As Paul would say, BS lol. The classic tried and true Klipsch Heritage and McIntosh combo is legendary and speaks for itself. There's a reason why so many of us enjoy the Mac and Klipsch combo, they are magical together. Although I wish I had the 5300, I got a sweet deal on a brand new 5200 I couldn't pass up on last spring. I've always wanted to own a McIntosh amplifier and the 5200 was the perfect amp for my setup as I was limited in cabinet placement height, but it was also all I needed power wise. It sounds so good with my KHorns, just spectacular. And I've always been into tubes, SETs and Integrateds with headphones and collected many rare tubes. But these Mac SS amps are dead silent, have awesome dynamics and power and just flat out make our speakers sing. The 5200/5300 is literally the perfect stereo integrated for larger heritage Klipsch's. BTW guys how the heck do you fill out your profile, I'm not newbie to how forums work but I'm not seeing any options to enter my signature or upload an avatar etc. All my settings allow me to do is change my email/password and notification settings.... Thanks!