colterphoto1

got to get photos dude. I've got a pair of them and the natural maple REAL VENEER is beautiful. Emphasize this feature and you might get a nibble.

hey FRZ- you are INSANE!!! That's got to about 30 billion dB! In my old Disco/PA days we used to take out a rental system of two stacks of double industrial LaScalas- stacked from bot to top: bass/bass/midhi/midhi- We biamped with BGW and Crown amps. Stacked like this the horns were just about head high. Used to joke that (clint eastwood voice) we cut their heads CLEAN off!!! rock on!

Hey Tommy! Welcome to the world of Klipsch. As a brother Cornwall lover, I like to give all new owners this little article to read (ok, its a little lengthy). In a nutshell, this group put the mighty Cornwall through its paces and proclaimed it one of the most accurate, efficient, cleanest speakers EVER designed. http://www.belgaudio.com/kcmap.htm Enjoy the reading and the tunes! Stay tuned, I'm currently compiling a list of Cornwall modifications (see mods forum). Michael

So then, do I take it you have a pair of Cornwalls for sale??

Question: WHen I bought my Cornwalls, they had no logo plate. I wrote Klipsch then, and they were kind enough to send a few. Where would the rectangular klipsch metal plates officially be placed? I put them centered about 1" down from top of grille.

The KSW is not a very loud sub. I've got one with my Cornwalls and you can barely hear it. It'll make a better match for my ksb1.1 mini system in the bedroom. Think I'll hook up my pair of JBL 4645's (single 18", -3@ 22Hz) with my QSC or Crown amp. THAT SHOULD DO IT! Yeah, the unfortunate side effect of having detailed speakers is that you hear all the junk on modern recordings. The overuse of delay, echo, compression, etc. is horrible! 70's rock is best. The engineers used to mic John Bonham's drums with only 3 carefully placed mics! Now THAT is engineering. Michael

Thanks for the 'trip' on memory lane. Didn't attend, but was a fledgling hippie in those days. Got the VHS of the original Woodstock movie, then the additional footage they put out later. Will view tonight and attempt to get in a strange frame of mind. I remember going to the Midnight Movies at Indy's Emerson Movie theatre and watching the Woodstock flick. They had the enormous ALTEC speakers in all 4 corners of the theatre and it was AWESOME! Michael ps, peace, love, bobby sherman and purple ashtrays!

Hello Artto, I've refinished a lot of furniture and used chemical products like the thick gel strippers and Homer Formby's which is thinner type solvent for removing old lacquers, as well as various sanding techniques. I personally think you're asking for trouble trying to remove a modern poly finish. Chemicals are very harsh and not very efficient on hard poly. Sanding runs the risk of gouging the surface and/or eating through the very thin veneer. If the cabinets are in reasonably good shape, say 7 out of 10 or better, I wouldn't take any chances. Mismatched furniture is called 'eclectic' in today's circles. BTW, keep rockin the Architectural Forum. You're one of my Heros! Michael

MUCH better room design!!!! Now your front lineup is symmetrical, and you still have a 2nd visual centerpiece (the fireplace-hard to ignore or turn your back to it). Still, try to pull sofa's away from wall if you can (hey, buy wife a couple of narrow 'sofa tables' for books, flowers, etc, just to get sofas out a couple of feet). You may notice a huge buildup of bass in the corner of the room where you are likely to sit- it's critical to get away from wall and corner! Also, I would not recommend placing the sub right behind you. Points for the kidney-kick theory, except that you may notice the localization of sound, ie, extreme sound effects that should naturally come from the screen will be noticeably BEHIND you. How about the upper right corner over by fireplace? It's a shorter line-level lead also. The corner may or may not be the best placement, advise you experiment. I heard a theory that you place the sub where you will sit, then CRAWL AROUND the room and find where the bass sounds best, then put the sub there. Weird theory, but it might just work. You're just trading places with the sub, the room acoustics work the same in reverse. You're getting the right idea here, keep fine tuning your room. WIll there be heavy curtains on the windows behind you for to shield light and sound reflections? I highly recommend spending some time in the Architectural Forum reading the works of Artto. He's our resident expert on room design. Good listening, Michael

Tom, good luck with your prototype. Ed, thanks for the construction tips, I look forward to finding dimensioned plans and tackling this myself. However, wouldn't it be questionable to build the entire cabinet out of furniture grade plywood, then skimp on interior panels with CDX plywood? I'd be afraid that there might be significant voids that might vibrate with time?

Hi Gang, I'd also be interested in tackling a 'Belle' project. Edward, that is some beautiful bookk-matched veneer and the idea of incorporating the projector is very unique indeed. Did you shock-mount the projector in any way to dampen harmful vibrations from the woofer? My projector lamp costs about $400 so would hate to treat it roughly. Is the center 'riser' open in the back for air circulation. Would greatly appreciate being included in any distribution for working drawings. or email colterphoto1@aol.com Thanks, Michael

OOPS, sorry about the misinformation! I ASSumed that your 73's were the same as my 74's . Talk about speaker odor! Mine lived through a house fire just prior to my purchasing them. Grime in the open grain walnut and horrible smoky odor for about two years. Actually much more pleasant than that popular 'Eau da Bar' that our old PA LaScala's had. WHEW, nothing like the combination of smoke, spilled beer and cheap perfume! Michael- tripping on memory lane again.

There is a building product called 'resilient channel' I believe, which is a metal 'z' shaped bracket that you screw to the joists, then screw the drywall to the other leg of the 'z', it is supposed to reduce noise transmission. Look for it at your local drywall/acoustical ceiling dealer.

If WAF allows, get the sofas away from the walls, so rear channels are actually beside or behind you. Also recommend direct speakers for rears vs 'surround' RS series. Reason: Dolby Digital has discrete rear channels and you want to be able to localize sound, not just bounce it all over the room. Possibly reorient system and sofas so you have a definite 'sweet spot' for viewing/listening. It does not exist in the proposed layout. Good listening!

Why ask for a TRILLION dollars when you can have a BILLION dollars????

I echo the thoughts of most. Go for the vintage pair, that beautiful bookmatched hardwood is hard to find and harder to recreate. Grilles and electronic mods are easy. Then, when you get ready to let a pair of your CORNWALLS go to a good home, email me! (sadly my new home hasn't room for khorns, but I'd dearly love to get a 2nd pair of Corns) ROCK ON!!!! colterphoto1@aol.com Michael

I always used Stantons, think it was the 681EEE. They had very short cantilevers (the shaft the stylus is on) which was good for DJ backcuing. Most models also had a weighted brush out front, which helped dampen the effects of warped records. I highly recommend them!

just an aside. We put 4 stereo pairs of them in my brother's new home. Did some construction things to make the installation better. You might be able to do some of this even after the fact. Wire the place before drywall is up. Where speakers would go, we pre-measured the spot so we could make cutout later- extra loop of wire was in place. When installing drywall in the speaker area, we used some construction adhesive for about 8' of ceiling joist/drywall joint, to lessen the chance of vibration. To create a virtual 'cabinet' for the ceiling speakers, cut the drywall hole, then stuff fibreglass insulation along either side of the joist space, creating a 2-3 ft3 cavity. This seems to help from the vibrations travelling to adjacent rooms through the joist cavity. We placed the speakers asymetrically (2 ft from one wall, 3.5 ft from other wall, for instance) in corners of the rooms, away from being directly overhead any planned seating spaces then aimed the tweeters away from the walls, into center of listening space. This was done to lessen any room effects. (help me here Artto) Hope this is accurate advice and helps your sis. It seemed to work well for my bro. Like I said, it's nice background music and it'll kind of rock, but the low end is lacking. If you've got one main stereo rack tied into the same source material, switching it on helps the house to rock. Good luck! Michael

my .02 (from a, like, total non-engineer) A tower speaker with dual drivers vs a similar bookshelf speaker with one driver. Double the cone area equals a gain in efficiency. Two drivers instead of one equals half the excursion for a given input signal, therefore lowering distortion. The potential for sound blurring due to timing differences is minimal due to the proximity of the drivers. Still, one 12" cone is substantially more cone area than even two 8" cones. However, the 8" drivers are lighter and probably will give better transient response (quicker starts and stops- less ringing) due to less mass. A do agree with the problems of intermodular distortion and the weird diffraction effects created by the use of a narrow baffle (motor) board. That's one reason the Cornwalls ROCK! Give me BIG BOXES and BIG drivers any day! Q: Whatever happened to the popular-for-one-year-only Appolito (sp?) configuration which stacked drivers in tight array of woofer/horn/woofer? I think even Klipsch used this for a very short period of time. Michael

Hey Lance, I've got two pairs of Elan SEL350's that I had installed in the ceiling of my photo gallery. Haven't got them situated in the new house yet though. THe local Ovation stores carried them as a house brand for a while. These models are two-way 5.25 poly woofer, 1"dome tweeter with directional swivel (17* any direction) I used this feature to keep the treble 'off' the side walls and aimed toward the listening positions. I consider these a fairly good general background music speaker. With any ceiling mount, there will be less bass response. These are rated at 58-20kHz at 88dbw, so they're fairly flat, but not terribly efficient by Klipsch standards. They were fairly inexpensive and have an easy mounting system. I think they are a pretty good deal for non-critical listening. I would NOT use them for any critical listening or HT purpose however! Hope this helps! Michael

I get to cry every week. As a wedding photographer, I get pretty close to my couples. There's almost always some little gesture during their ceremony or something said during a toast that gets me a little misty. When I stop getting emotional about it, it'll be time for a new career. Tonight for instance. Bride and Groom come over to house to view their previews on big screen (projected, with background beautiful soft jazz playing on KLIPSCH speakers!). The Bride told be before ceremony that her wedding company was comprised of 5 little girl cousins ages 12-15, just like her Mom had done at her wedding. My assistant grabbed this beautiful b&w shot of the backs of 4 of these little cousins in their fragile dresses with first formal hairdo's, then whispered to the little gals "turn you head over your shoulder and look here"! then got a shot of the 4 little minxes giveing her their best 13-year old 'foxy' look! Just AWESOME, the Bride, her Groom, and I just stared at those images and really got weepy eyed. I LOVE my job!

How much difference between 29 and 30 Hz? Not enough to care about. Remember these are only specs. Everything changes in your listening room. Even if the -3dB down point is ever so slightly different, what also matters is the smoothness of the response curve, the response in YOUR room, and most importantly, how YOUR ears perceive the sounds coming out of the speaker system. Let's just enjoy the music people. (my .02) Michael

Sorry, here's the link to locate your songs. http://www.thisdayinmusic.com/cont/choose.html Oh yeah, mine was Fernando by Abba UK, Silly Love Songs by Wings US. I was hoping it would be something cool like Led Zeppelin. I just bought a Gold Record for Physical Graffiti! Michael

Okay, neat idea, but who listened to music when they were born?!?!? I'm a firm believer that we're basically stuck for the rest of our lives with the music we, um, how shall I say, 'came of age to'. Lacking a more distinct date, how bout what was number one the week you graduated from High School?? We probably stand a 99% chance of actually recognizing these artists/songs. You may search the whole week- pick a good one! If you didn't graduate HS, what are you doing on this Forum?!?!?? Michael

'It's All in the Game' by Tommy Edwards, both here and abroad. WHO THE F*&$ is Tommy Edwards?!?!?! Gary, I agree, yours bites too!