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In Ft Wayne, we have Classic Stereo and Lehman's Electronics as authorized dealers. I bought my R3s from Classic and got a pretty good deal. Lehman's is in the bankruptcy process and made me a great deal on my R7 stuff.

v3pcbl, This sounds like the Ft Wayne area? That is where I bought my RF-7s. Did you get the RS-7s? If so, what kind of offer did they accept?

You don't need to take the plastic cap (part that screws onto the post) off. You just need to pop the plastic disc off of the end of the cap. Use a very small screwdriver or an razor blade to pry it off.

Because it IS a rear center channel. Whether dialogue is passed to the channel should have no bearing on what to call it. It's a front center channel, not a dialogue speaker. DTS ES Discrete (6.1) material does send a unique signal to this speaker.

The RF-7s and the Denon AVR-2803 are a great combination. With the effeciency of Klipsch speakers, you don't need a big amp. I was running my speakers with a Denon AVR-1602 before I upgraded to a 7.1 receiver. The 1602 did great. You are definitely on track with the idea that the RF-7s will last you 20 years. A great speaker is a great speaker. A great receiver can become outdated (not obsolete) in just a year or two. Good luck.

I second the Diana Krall Live In Paris. Excellent. Also, Billy Idol VH1 Storytellers. Both discs have DTS soundtracks.

Well, I will listen to offers on the RF-3 IIs. They would be a great deal for someone who can pick them up or meet me somewhere in between. A person wouldn't have to worry about shipping damage or what an unopened unseen speaker looked like. These are in brand new condition and only 4 months old (used in a smoke free household). With local pick-up, there would be no shipping cost and, of course, no sales tax. G-Money. I am willing to sell the RS-3 IIs, but I would probably need $375 for them. I would only be selling them to go get some RS-7s, and I have doubts as to how much of an upgrade that would really be. Anyone with experience of the RS-3 IIs vs the RS-7? I'm guessing the biggest difference would be in multi-channel music.

I thought I would offer these up here before going to Ebay. I have a pair of RF-3 IIs in brand new condition for sale. I used them for four months before taking the big step and buying a pair of RF-7s. I am hoping to sell to someone who can pick them up to avoid the hassle and risk of shipping. I do have the original boxes though, so shipping is a possibility. I live in northeast Indiana. I am asking $600 for the speakers.

Griffinator, I have a couple of questions. I have just began to think about a HD TV. Probably a RPTV but maybe a FPTV. Do you have any experience or thoughts on the previously mentioned Sony HS-10 FPTV. I've read good user reviews of it and it's $2500-$3000 price tag is appealling. Also, why did you say that "of course you don't want (the screen) hanging there all the time"? Is there a performance reason for that of just a cosmetic preference? I currently own a 8 year old 32" Sony XBR and a 5 year old 53" Sony XBR. Both have been excellent! I found it interesting that you indicated Sony is not what it was just a few years ago. Thanks in advance for any comments.

When you consider the price from an online seller, be sure to factor in the shipping charge. Some places (CrazyEddie comes to mind) has really low prices, but makes up for them with crazy shipping charges. The cheapest online prices that I found were www.brandnamez.com

What makes Klipsch speakers so efficient? I am wondering specifically about the Reference series, but also Klipsch in general. I assume that using horns has alot to do with it in the Heritage series, but the Reference series only has horn tweeters? Anyway, any insight would be appreciated.

A question to those that know more about speakers than me. Since his center channel speaker is going into a cabinet, could this be a concern with the rear ports on the RC-7? If this is a possible problem, maybe the RC-3 II should be used.

I was already to order a Denon AVR-3803 next week, but that will now have to wait. On my way home from work, I stopped in a local electronics store that has filed for bankruptcy and is trying to move product. I ended up buying RF-7s ($1329) and a RC-7 ($500). I am experiencing a little shock in the money that I dropped, but I can't wait to hook them up in the morning.

I currently have the Reference 3 setup. When looking at the Klipsch brochure, I didn't see where the RF-5 was all that different to warrant the sizeable price jump. I also notice that on this forum lots of people have RF-3s and lots of people have RF-7s, but I don't see too many people with RF-5s. I have not yet heard either the 5s or the 7s, but have been considering upgrading to the 7s. Today, I had a salesman tell me that the 5s were the best sounding speaker of the Reference series. Now, I don't put much faith in this particular salesman, but that's what he said. I justed wanted to hear some opinions on the 5s vs the 3s and 7s.

I'm about to order a Denon AVR-3803 from ReliableAudioVideo.com. I read a couple of good reviews of people's experience with them and they are selling the 3803 for $810.

I am currently looking at <$1000 receivers and haven't yet decided. One that I'm looking at is the Harman Kardon AVR525. It retails for $999, but OneCall is selling factory refurbs for $499. It sounds like a great deal.

I've had a Don Henley CD at work for a while that skips continuously. It was worthless. This evening, I boiled some water and dipped it in for 5 seconds. The label side now looks a little bad (maybe I did it too long). I put it in my Denon DVD-1600 and played a track at the beginning, one in the middle, and one at the end of the disc. Not a single skip! Tomorrow, I will try it on CD player at work, and I expect it to play great.

Regarding the lack of bass management for DVD-Audio on the Denon AVR-3803, this is the message that I received from Denon: --------- Sorry for the delay in responding. Although the spec sheet doesn't mention the 24/192 A/D conversion, it is in there, although it is only on the stereo analog inputs, not the 7.1 external inputs like the 5803. So the 3803 does not do Bass Management on those inputs, you have to use what may or may not be in the DVD-A player. Sorry for the confusion. ---------

From the DTS website FAQ: 8. What is 96/24? More recording is being done at a 96kHz sampling rate and at 24 bits. DTS has always had 24-bit capability, and DTS 96/24 adds the 96kHz capability. It is fully compatible with existing DTS decoders, which will output 96/24 tracks at 48kHz. DTS 96/24 is the only system that: provides 5.1 channels of 96/24 along with full-motion video on DVD-Video and DVD-Audio (video zone), is compatible with all DVD-Video players, and is accessible through the digital output. 9. How Does 96/24 Work? The DTS coding system has a core + extension structure. The core represents the DTS data as has been known since the first home decoders. The extension can carry data for future applications or enhancements of any sort. All DTS decoders recognize and use the core data. Basic decoders ignore the extension data, while advanced decoders can make use of it. This allows for full backward compatibility for any scheme using the extension. DTS has recently used the extension field for two purposes. In the first case, it has been used to carry an additional channel for 6.1 dis-crete. In the second case, the extension field carries the additional spectral data added by 96-kHz sampling. For a program in DTS 96/24, existing decoders read the core at 48-kHz and reproduce the standard spectrum. DTS 96/24 decoders read both core and extension and reproduce the extended spectrum. The data rate for 96/24 is 1.536Mbit/s, the higher of the two DTS rates presently used. While numerically this might suggest twice as much compression, there is in fact negligible additional compres-sion on the core data. This is because there is relatively little information in the range 24-48kHz, so it can be coded very compactly. The 96/24 stream passes through the S/PDIF just as standard DTS does.

My search for a new receiver is getting more clouded. Below are more current choices, pros, cons, and questions. Any comments would be welcomed. Denon AVR-3803: Pros: - Highest power of the three (110 WPC) - 16 Burr-Brown DACs (192kHz/24) - Video Up Conversion (don't know if this matters to me). Cons: - No bass management for DVD-Audio Pioneer Elite VSX-45TX: Pros: - MCACC - Wide Band Frequency Response (5Hz -100kHz) Cons: - Only 1 Component Video input (I am really surprised at this) - No bass management for DVD-Audio - Less desirable crossover selections Harmon Karden 525: Pros: - Least expensive of the three receivers (OneCall even shows refurbed models for $499) - Bass Management for DVD-Audio - Abilitiy to select different crossover points for front, center and surround speakers. Cons: - Lowest power rating (70 WPC) - No DTS 96/24 - Highest THD (.07) - Lowest SNR (95 dB) - Crystal DACs (not familiar with this company) Some questions: - How much difference do the different DACs make? I keep hearing that Burr-Brown make the best DACs. That would be a vote for the Denon. - Is the power rating differences important considering that I am driving Klipsch Reference 3 series speakers? - Do the measured differences in THD and SNR matter? - Is it a big deal that the HK 525 doesn't have DTS 96/24?

Bryan, Once you set up your 45TX at home, what did you think of the MCACC? Thanks, Mark

The title should read: Denon AVR-3803 or Pioneer Elite VSX-45TX not 3802

I am trying to decide between these two receivers. I read where both are great and both work well with Klipsch. I currently own a Denon receiver and like it, so I'm inclined to stick with Denon. I also like several of the 3803 features better such as better DACs and better crossover selections. The MCACC on the VSX-45TX catches my attention. It seems like most people who have one think that the MCACC really helps. Most postings that I have read are from VSX-49TX owners though. I am wondering if the 45's MCAAC wouldn't be so good considering it only operates over 5 frequency bands. I read on AVS where someone thought that AVIA test patterns and a Radio Shack SPL meter would provide better results as far as channel balancing. I would like to hear comments from people who have experience with either of these two receivers. Thanks, Mark

After being out of the home stereo / theatre game for quite a while, I tried to just upgrade a little (added DD/DTS receiver and sub to old pro logic setup). The more I listened, the more I wanted to upgrade. I upgraded my DVD player. Liked it more, wanted to upgrade. I then bought the RF-3 setup (RF-3 II, RS-3 II, RC-3 II). Liked it more, wanted to upgrade. I then bought an SVS sub (PC-Plus 20-39). Liked it more, wanted to upgrade. Now, I want to upgrade to the Reference 7 series and get a 6.1 receiver (probably the Denon AVR-3803). My question is: If I go to 6.1, would adding a RC-7 as a front center blend well with the RF-3IIs? (I would move the RC-3 to the rear center and wait until I could get the RF-7s). Thanks, Mark

Sometimes when looking on Ebay, I see a listing for a RC-3 (not a RC-3 II). Was there a model before the RC-3 II? If so, what are the differences?