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I thought that was funny also, and calls himself Jake the pimp [] stick around I think you will fit in well OR be on Amy's watch list. []

That's alot of power, I think I would hurt myself ! [:S]

Very funny, it's a shame no one has picked up where Mr Rodrigues he left off.

Sorry to hear about your wife, doctors can be wrong, we can hope, good luck for both of you.

Cat the other white meat. Calm down I have one, it's old and lazy like me.

Stormin I feel like that guy in your Avatar. All I did was the speakers, the wife and daughter picked out everything else from one of them color chart things which shows which colors go together, then they went nuts and redone the whole room and connecting two rooms including floor molding, furniture and paint, everything but the ceiling.

It's 4 singles, it's MUCH easier to handle that way, still about 112 pounds each without the driver. There is a big piece of that felt stuff that goes under that kind of flooring between the floor and the bass bins, they slide pretty easy. That giant TV and stand kind of helps to make them not the only large thing in there,...I guess? The 3 little speakers across the front are forte ll's, behind that beam, behind and above the sofa is 3 more forte's for the rear facing down on an angle. I don't know about the disappearing thing [] I had thought about building a frame around the 402 horn from Red Oak and on the front of the bass cabinets like a frame for grill cloth but Christy likes the way it looks especially the top horn, so until we get tired of this look they stay as they are. I may just build a Red oak frame for the 402 just to cover that flat part with the bolt holes but leave the horn open. Greg " My wife commented after seeing the picture, so what do they do, have it on half of one? " Not sure what she is talking about but if it's what I am thinking, I have to get a Cd with plenty of bass !

Now that is really funny, when you say something is a particualiarly heavy number, it must be unbelievable considering this is from a serious metal head like you. [H] [] I am definitely officially old, I sound like my dad !

Ok I will do that, I will try them like that, I am still using the Yamaha RX-V730 as a preamp thru the pre-outs. When I have the D75's at half volume and lets just say at 60 db, then turn it down and set the D75's to 3/4 then turn it back up to the same 60 db's it sounds better, more dynamic or something but better for sure. Did I say that correctly, at the same db's of volume it sounds better the more the D75's are turned up, it's like it's using more of the power from the amps and less of the volume from the preamp, and has a much better sound, that's why I have been running them at 3/4. Thinking like that with the D75's turned up all the way the pre amp has to put out less which is better. Makes sense ? It does sound better, I just was not comfortable with them all the way up but the more I think about it the more I want to try it.

I never went past 3/4 on the D75's but if I turn the pre-amp up with the amps set at half/straight up I can get a red blink on the Dx. Once I seen a flash of red on one of the D75's when it was set at 3/4 and the sound volume was crazy loud, I will check the db's next time when no one is home. I know what 100-105 db's sound like and it sounded louder than that, and it was still perfectly clear. I listen probably around 75-85 db's on average when I have it turned up which is not that long, normally I just have where you can walk around and still talk. It's a good thing I did not have these speakers when I was young, I would be deaf now ! What's strange is after I did that I turned it down to what sounded low and walked outside, when I came back in a couple minutes later it sounded louder than when I walked out, your ears adjust quickly to volume.

Thanks everybody DrWho it's just a piece of the leftover plywood with a rush job on the paint job because I couldn't wait to hear it. Just as you said I set everything where you said and it works perfect. Thank you TheEvan anytime you want to hear it let us know. I do need to make some adjustments in the Dx 38 but I have not touched any of the settings, I think it could be even better, one of the room measurement " suitcases" DrWho makes would help with that, I guess that's something I will eventually have to do. I hate to just play with the crossover settings by ear, especially my ears. Coytee I took 632597 pic's and they just don't blink in the pic's and I take the pic just as it blinks ? [:$] If you like the room you would love my dust collection on the top and back of everything electronic or the speakers, I am responsible for cleaning that part and apparently I am not that responsible !

Thanks everyone Crown amps and Dx 38.

You can click on these pic's to make them bigger.

Nice looking dogs, but I really thought this thread was about bose salesman ?

Yes it is good to get thru, well it's not the first plywood boxes in there just the biggest, the cat likes to go walk thru one side and out the other, next time she does I may have to turn it on for a second to run her out so she does not decide to claw a speaker cone.

Thanks, it was a moment of insanity on my daughter and wifes part, they heard them play and said " that's what we want " [] I just went along, just to please them of course ! [:|][] Well, I keep playing around with pointing the 402 horn because I can only turn the left MWM a little because there is a door on that wall. Also you can see in the pic the horn is slid to the inside side of the MWM, I want to try and turn that left bin a little more toward the center of the room a little if I can, it would only be a few inches but it might help. The 402 really has a wide dispersion compared to the smaller horns, that what it sounds like to me at least, or it just sounds like more/bigger ? I don't quite have it figured out yet to get a perfect sweet spot that's why I keep pointing the horns at different angles. It's close but the bass bins at a slightly different angle could be affecting that a little. You asked about the width, there is 11' 6" space between the bins, where your head is when siting on the sofa is 14' from the front of the TV which is about the front of the bins. When a got my first MWM bin from Mark 1101 it never had a driver in it and I weighed it on a scale and it was 112 pounds, that was also a single bin.

Almost forgot, I need to thank a few people who helped make this possible, like Roy for designing a great horn and the crossover settings to go in the Dx 38, and JWC for the K402 horn and the Dx 38, also Mark 1101 for my first MWM bins I copied and now have in the workshop and the drivers K69 for the K402 horn. The 4 bass drivers are Bob Crites cast frame and do very well. Also DrWho hot-roding the Dx38 to match better with non commercial equipment, it works great, plenty of blinkey lights like Colter says ! They sound Great, my last speakers, really ! []

A while back we decided to build some speakers for 2 CH so I copied a pair I have in the workshop and made some for the house. I used Red Oak plywood and stained them to match the Red Oak entertainment center and the French doors that are in the living room already, then oiled with BLO. Let me tell you it's a workout oiling 4 MWM cabinets, that's alot of square footage ! The part I built is 4 MWM single bass bins, and the mid and high freq is covered by the K402 horn, it's run using my Yamaha HTR as a preamp (for now) and a EV Dx38 for the active crossover and is powered by 2 Crown D-75 amps at 35 WPC. It's hard to explain how it sounds without using all the [bs] over used terms which in the end does little. So I will just say they sound HUGE and very clear and if your not careful with the volume can scare you and shake the house. There is no way to tell you were listening to a horn if they were covered, the sound is not coming from a spot you could pick out, I guess because the k402 horn is so big and the bass bins are even bigger. You can walk around the room and unless your standing even with or behind the K402 you hear everything, very wide dispersion. Mark 1101 who is where I got this idea from, he told me they will rock the house, he was not joking one bit, it's not about loud any speaker can do that, it's about a huge sound and still having bass without turning it up. Ok I know you like pic's so here is a pic of how the room is set up to give you an idea, behind that pole behind the sofa is 16' more, you can't see, Kitchen/Dining room , the room with the TV and speakers is 24' wide and 18' deep to that pole behind the sofa.

I think it's better to take your wife on the speakers not over !

Thats funny

Funny stories, I am sitting here laughing because I did it last week to my wife and couldn't stop laughing which made it worse ! [:$] It scared me too. I wanted her to sit and listen to something, she sits on the sofa while I get it ready then I turn it on and sit, after a few seconds I hear nothing ? I turn up the volume a couple of times, I can't read the number on the front of the receiver from where I sit, then I realize I never had it set to CD. I press the CD button and about 25 WPC rushes to the MWM's [] from 15' away thats a whole lot of power for them, we both jumped and as I look over at her she had bounced off the sofa then was going up the back of it when I finally was able to hit mute. I could not stop laughing, she looked at me and screamed something I can't repeat here ! A few minutes later she was laughing, I think I jumped as high as her.

Yes there working and sound great. I need to make a post. If I were you I would just use the two and listen to that for a while while you look or build another pair, you may decide you don't even want another pair depending on how much bass you want. What I like about the four bins is if you listen a low volume you still get nice bass. I will try to send you those pics in a few minutes and see if they go thru today.

Wait till you can hear them ! They sound as big as they look, it does not sound like the sound is from a horn, just wait. [Y] And on top of a jube or MWM's I have not heard better even for many times the price. []

I have a Yamaha RX-V730 and it has a 4 or 8 ohm switch on the back and it's far from the top of the line so i would think it's common ?

Great story, started reading and couldn't stop, 3500 mph is hard to imagine.