Noseyjoe Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 Just bought a great Beogram 1700 turntable off ebay for a few quid... tickled pink with it generally (a masterpiece of 70s Scandinavian design), but getting it across London on the back of my bicycle may have been traumatic for the old girl. Although cartridge and counterweight were removed for transit the veneer took a bit of a battering. Re-veneering is within my talents, but does anyone know how to adjust the tonearm height? I've experimented with every counterweight position and tracking weight but the arm still skates across the record when I press the reject button. Naturally this is alarming as it creates that horrible racket and may also be damaging to both record and stylus. Can't find any obvious way to raise the arm height during the reject process. Also I have a bit of buzz through cartridge. In the past with turntables I've usually managed to cure this by just disconnecting and reconnecting cart or manipulating it slightly, but this isn't working with the Beogram. I assume it's a shielding problem of some sort but where's the usual seat of the problem on B&O decks, does anyone know? Thanks Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Travis In Austin Posted June 8, 2009 Moderators Share Posted June 8, 2009 I would suggest you repost this under the 2 Channel forum here and you should get lots of help. Travis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 "skates across the record when I press the reject button" The cueing cylinder is gummed up. Spray some cleaner in it and manually move it up and down several times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseyjoe Posted June 9, 2009 Author Share Posted June 9, 2009 Thanks a lot mate that sounds like it might do the trick, already (with renewed use) the arm is starting to lift a little higher Now to sort the hum! Cheers Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 There are no adjustments for the tone arm. I have a 1600 and it is a nice unit. The only thing you can adjust is stylus pressure. Height, anti-skate etc are all fixed at the factory. At least they are on mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebes Posted June 9, 2009 Share Posted June 9, 2009 This is a very common problem. The lubrication get's gummed up. Here's an extensive "how to" on how to fix this: http://community.klipsch.com/forums/p/92930/941868.aspx#941868 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseyjoe Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Thanks 'thebes' that's really helpful. It's starting to improve already, what a great turntable such precision engineering I can't believe the sound quality and tracking ability for something that looks so spindly and slender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skonopa Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 FYI - Here is a link with the user and service manuals (including a schematic) for the Beogram 1700. You might be able to find a bit of wisdom to sort your problems out in there. http://www.beomanuals.com/Beogram/Beogram%201700/ BTW, for anybody with B&O equipment, this whole www.beomanuals.com site may be a valuable reference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseyjoe Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 Terrific Steven, looks like the Holy Grail! Is there any way to train it to cope with 12-inch 45s, 7-inch 33s, or 10-inch records of any speed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 If I remember right, if you place the tone arm over the place you want to start playback, then press the speed button, you will play back from that point at that speed, at least that is the way I seem to remember it from years ago. I must say that I do like my B&O table though I have not used it much in the last decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseyjoe Posted June 11, 2009 Author Share Posted June 11, 2009 Thanks Cal I think you must be right, because I can't see any sensors or laser beams or other way for the deck to ascertain the diameter of the record. Guess I will have to get happy with 'semi-automatic' operation. The button that still mystifies me is the 'Turn' one, which just spins the platter for as long as you hold it down, almost like a DJ facility... can't see the Beogram, nice as it is, being exactly suitable for the dancefloor! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cal Blacksmith Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 Turn is an easy one to explain. It turns the platter so you can see the strobe lines on the platter, you then are able to set the RPM properly with the + - dial.[] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 "The button that still mystifies me is the 'Turn' one, which just spins the platter for as long as you hold it down" For cleaning the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skonopa Posted June 11, 2009 Share Posted June 11, 2009 The button that still mystifies me is the 'Turn' one, which just spins the platter for as long as you hold it down, almost like a DJ facility... can't see the Beogram, nice as it is, being exactly suitable for the dancefloor! Quoted from the user's guide found at that link I've provided above: Wiping of Records Pressing TURN will cause the turntable to rotate without the pickup being moved in. You may use a record cleaner of the type which leaves a damp film of pure water. It is unnecessary to use an underlay such as carbon discs for static discharge because the turntable in itself provides good metallic contact with all records. That should de-mystify the "TURN" button for ya. [] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noseyjoe Posted June 12, 2009 Author Share Posted June 12, 2009 Many thanks Skonopa think that's all my problems now solved! And hum was just my dumb failure to remember that turntables needed an earth wire to the amp chassis in the old days. Now to re-veneer the plinth in rosewood... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skonopa Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Many thanks Skonopa think that's all my problems now solved! And hum was just my dumb failure to remember that turntables needed an earth wire to the amp chassis in the old days. Now to re-veneer the plinth in rosewood... Good! Glad to hear you got all you problems fixed. Seems those old Beograms turn-tables are pretty nice. Yes, you definitly have to make sure you hook up the ground wire for the turntable. I bet it would look really nice once you get it done in rosewood - should post a picture when you are done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauln Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Those strips are veneer over plastic and they just snap in place through holes on the sides. I was tempted to buy a junker on ebay just to salvage a set of strips because I lost the rosewood on my 1900 (bought new in 1975) many years ago. Didn't look too bad with the bare black metal and holes, but I got some wood strips from a hobby shop that were the perfect width and thickness.. Cut them to proper length, sanded them, beveled the ends to 45 degress so they would fit right at the corners, and spray painted them black, used a hobby craft two-part glue to place them. Turned out perfect. Iosprophyl alcohol will bring back the deep clean sheen of the brushed aluminum deck top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fini Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 The button that still mystifies me is the 'Turn' one, which just spins the platter for as long as you hold it down, almost like a DJ facility... To everything...there is a season... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cody_Mack Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Is this table any good? http://www.beocentral.com/products/bgrx2 Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djk Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Most B&O are OK, but................. Don't but a model that takes a round cartridge. Don't buy a model that takes a round cross-section belt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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