gyoko Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Hi Guys/Gals, Thanks for the wonderful reception. I own a pair of K-horns that I use exclusively for listening to music. I use a dedicated center channel to complete the horn ensemble. The center channel is a horn-loaded loudspeaker built by a small company called CRH, which I live near. They actually matched the wood species, grain and finish to my K-horns so it would appear as a matched ensemble. This speaker, which they call the "Carlron", is the only loudspeaker that I would even consider using with my venerable K-horns. If anyone doesn't have corners and wants the FULL horn sound in a mid-wall posistion, I have heard the "Carlrons" in stereo pairs and all I can say is the sound is OVERWHELMING and UNBELIEVEABLE. In every respect the "Carlron" is a clear match for my K-horns and in some respects they clearly out perform them. Check out there web site www.crhloudspeaker.com , they are an obvious alternative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Oh crap - it's a two way K-horn that crosses over at 340HZ and you don't need a corner. Where's my checkbook This message has been edited by deang on 02-25-2002 at 10:30 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxg Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 So what sort of price are we talking about for these non-corner KHorn lookalikes??? ------------------ 2 * Heresy 2 (mains) 2 * Homemade horn speakers (rears) 1 * REL Strata 3 sub Accuphase E211 amp. Tube monoblocks with separate pre-amp (solid state). Marantz CD6000 player Sony NS900 SACD/DVD player Stax Headphones Humax 5400 digital satellite receiver Sharp Video 32" Sony flat screen 16:9 TV Mogami interconnects Silver Synergistic speaker cable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 I sent them e-mail and left a message on their answering machine I bet they're expensive ------------------ deanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoriated_Tiger Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Nice looking speaker, but oy, is the writeup on 'mechanical advantage' a truckload of male bovine byproducts! This 'ronnie' fella didn't invent *any* of this. He's riding the coattails of Paul Klipsch, Jim Lansing, William Hartsfield, et al. It made me *sick* to read it, actually. He prolly "realized that the ability to create massive wavefronts of sound was the secret to the sensory impact of a live musical performance" AFTER he'd heard a couple of Big Ole Horns, Klipsch or otherwise Poser! ------------------ --- Klipsch SF2 Thorens TD145 / AT440ML turntable Dynaco Stereo 70 power Sansui CA-2000 pre Pioneer RT707 tapedeck Pioneer 4100 cd player This message has been edited by Thoriated_Tiger on 02-25-2002 at 11:12 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deang Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 Agreed. It was tacky of them to write it up that way. Like it's some kind of new revelation in speaker design. Time for Klipsch to get those lawyers busy - ------------------ deanG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 I haven't read this site yet, but just looking at that speaker looks like infringement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazman Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 gyoko, Give me a break, P-L-E-A-S-E! I suspect imitation is the highest form of flattery. Sounds like this company copied pretty much from a '70s Klipsch Loudspeaker Systems booklet. Klipsch already had the answer to a center channel for the Khorns with the Cornwall or Belles, even a Heresy. In fact, I have one of the booklets from the original owner of my Belles, with two Khorns and a Cornwall as center on the cover. All you had to do was purchase the Klipsch speaker designed for the task. They even ripped off the "floor as optical mirror" illustration used by Klipsch to describe how the Klipschorn handles 32-foot wave lengths. BTW, the Patent Notice can also be found on the last page of that booklet. To each his own! Klipsch out. This message has been edited by jazman on 02-25-2002 at 03:28 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardre Posted February 25, 2002 Share Posted February 25, 2002 quote: This speaker, which they call the "Carlron", is the only loudspeaker that I would even consider using with my venerable K-horns What about a Belle? Patent infringement and 'copycatting' notwithstanding, I am hard pressed to believe that no matter how fine a speaker, and these do look fine, the sonic and tonal and timbre qualities would be a 'match' since the 'internal mechanics' are quite different. 'OVERWHELMING'.....quite possible. 'UNBELIEVABLE'.....perhaps. 'MATCH'.....well...... ------------------ Ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike stehr Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 Boy! This guy is gettin' pounded down in the general Question Forum. AA would have deleted that post from the start. Tsk,Tsk, Gyoko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Warren Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 A quick look at the back of this speaker reveals that the design is not a folded horn ala PWK. My bet is its more like a LaScala with the mouth exhausting to the back or a variant of an EV or Jensen design. The web site is a turd, leaves the "Normals" in the dark and the rest of us speculating. Regarding loosing your lunch over this-relax, the patent of the Klipschorn (which it isn't) long expired. Any half-wit with a tablesaw can go into business and make Klipschorn clones, just don't call them Klipschorns. This message has been edited by John Warren on 02-26-2002 at 06:34 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 I think you're right John. It looks to be a LaScala that is loaded to the rear wall... BIG SH*T. At best,the way this guy has structured the write-up, it looks as if he latched onto one foundation from his H.S. Statics class and was so impressed by "his discovery" it prevented him from accelerating to Dynamics. At worst, plagiarism. I'd be surprised if he didn't, sometime in the future, change his surname to Klipsche. Next up...You give the Carlrons a good lustre if you rub them often with snakeoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 26, 2002 Share Posted February 26, 2002 BTW, is it coincidence gyoko ono is from Atlanta??? From the website: CRH Loudspeakers .....P.O. Box 450668 .....Atlanta, Georgia 31145 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted February 27, 2002 Share Posted February 27, 2002 quote: Originally posted by gyoko: Hi Guys/Gals, The center channel is a horn-loaded loudspeaker built by a small company called CRH, which I live near. SOUNDJUNKIE, I think he was pretty upfront about that, no? ------------------ http://members.fortunecity.com/sebdavid - go laugh at my crappy website/equipment http://www.dvdprofiler.com/mc.asp?alias=Sebdavid - go laugh at my puny little DVD collection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUNDJUNKIE Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Sure he was. Can you imagine a BB post if it were possible 55 years ago sounding something like this: Hi Gals/Guys, I just found this fantastic speaker to use with my low power amps. They're located in Hope AK and I think they sound wonderful. Take a look at the design! Hope this helps. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilH Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 gyoko: We appreciate your enthusiasm over an audio product, that is what we are all here for. But three different posts under three different threads DOES look like a way to obtain some free promotion for a company that is "soon to sell on the Internet." I ask that you keep your "enthusiasm" to one post only. PhilH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornEd Posted February 28, 2002 Share Posted February 28, 2002 Yea, PhilH!!! You've earned HornEd's most brief and enthusiastic reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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