Tommy F. Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Currently I'm using my Paramours (RCA 2A3's NOS 1947) to drive a pair of Klipsch RF5's. I supplement the lows with a Klipsch RSW 10. The sound staging and focus are exceptional, but I'd like some loudspeakers that are more efficient... like horns.I have a chance to purchase a pair of 1977 LaScalas this weekend for $800. I don't think the crossovers have been upgraded, but I love projects like this. I probably need to 'stiffen' the cabinets also. Knowing that LaScalas are somewhat weak in the low end, below 60Hz, I plan on keeping my RSW 10. Has anyone heard this combination before? Just curious... and I have butterflies anticipating my new project... By the way, this is my first post. I just joined the Klipsch forum this morning after reading through the pages. Looks like a great place to share ideas! PEACE Tommy F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daddy Dee Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Tommy, Sounds like a wonderful project. I have driven LaScalas with Paramours, among other 2A3 amps and thought the combination was very, very good. You will definitely need to get fresh caps in your LS crossovers. For some music the sub will remain helpful. I would give the 2A3 and fresh capped LS plenty of listening time w/o the sub too, to fall in love with the LS sound. Diana Krall - Live in Paris was my reference CD for this combo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennie Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Hey Tommy, Welcome to the Klipsch Forum. We're glad you're here. That sounds like a great project and I think you are going to love the La Scalas. $800 sounds like a good price for a pair of La Scalas. As you and Daddy Dee mentioned, the crossovers will need updating, but that is part of the fun. Keep us posted on the progress and Congratulations! [Y] Dennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcmusic Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 I at one time used a 2A3 amp with my 1977 k-horns and loved the sound, as others have told you the xovers will need to be updated or upgraded your choice; I recomend upgrading. Jay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollar bill Posted April 17, 2010 Share Posted April 17, 2010 Congrats and welcome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy F. Posted April 18, 2010 Author Share Posted April 18, 2010 Daddy Dee, Great suggestion, to listen to the LS's w/o the sub, especially at first, to give them a chance to shine on their own. I'll be shopping for caps this week.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy F. Posted April 18, 2010 Author Share Posted April 18, 2010 Thank you, Dennie I will keep you all posted. PEACE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DizRotus Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Welcome. I agree with the suggestion to listen without a sub for a substantial time period to establish a basis for later comparison. I also recommend that you listen to them as they are for an extended period and then change one variable at a time, with a substantial listening period after each change. After establishing how they sound now, then contact Bob Crites, BEC on this forum, to get new caps to return the networks to stock, before "upgrading." The cost is minimal and it would allow you to establish a baseline before making more expensive changes. After new caps, consider bracing the sidewalls of the bass bins; another inexpensive upgrade. Enjoy your project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 wonderful combination, when dialed in properly! read this: http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0405/acititan.htm the peak of the sub is close to where the LaScalas roll off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennie Posted April 18, 2010 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Daddy Dee, Great suggestion, to listen to the LS's w/o the sub, especially at first, to give them a chance to shine on their own. I'll be shopping for caps this week.... So............you bought them??? If so, we love pictures!!! [] Here is the Link to "Bob Crites Site" ----------------> CLICK HERE Dennie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Mandaville Posted April 19, 2010 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I have also used a parallel feed output 2A3 amplfier with LaScalas, and thought the combination was exceptionally good. The Paramour should be a great match for the LS, as others have mentioned. We use a subwoofer with both our Lowther rear-loaded horns and Heresies. It can sometimes take a bit of experimentation in terms of placement, phase, and crossover point, but once it locks in place is very enjoyable. I honestly didn't realize how much I was missing until I listened to music with a subwoofer, given to me by my wife as a gift. I'm not in the least a bass fanatic, but do like to hear the lower frequency instruments reproduced at more realistic levels. Have fun, Erik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 musical notes have harmonics that extend above and below the intial note: Our Reviewing StandardsBy Editor Steven R. Rochlin It is not easy being an equipment reviewer. All the different possibilities each reviewer can use to optimize their setup are mind boggling! The difference between a product being rated as "good" to being rated as "great" could all boil down to simply changing one interconnect! This is just one of the many pitfalls of being a professional reviewer. Another is that there really is no set standards. No guidelines in what one means by "a deep soundstage" or "an expansive sound". Well now there is! The one thing no one ever seems to have tried is standardizing the "audiophile measurement lingo". Putting a quantitative result to a subjective measurement. Therefore Enjoy the Music.com is now the very first subjective magazine to have all of its reviewers use a "standardized form". This form is plainly explained below. What you are about to read is exactly the same as what every Enjoy the Music.com reviewers uses to judge a product within a given system. There is no special lingo, he-man secret handshakes, or secret "read between the lines" underground language that was known only to the now extinct Audiophili-asaurous'. We are breaking free from the "old school" and have found what we feel is a better way. As the Big Book (by my friend Bill W.) says "If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness." As i was only half way through this new subjective measurement idea, it was painfully obvious how overdue it truly was. Every product will be rated by a points system. Each product will be analyzed in various ways such as stage width, depth, tonal accuracy, spectral balance, imaging, etc. In this way you, the readership, can plainly see a measured subjective in which you can compare one product to another. Of course each reviewer will have her or his own base-line in which to begin. Each category will have a point value of 1 to 100 with 50 being a good measurement. Consider most good high-end gear a 70 while the truly exceptional pieces get a rating of 90 or above. Now let us begin learning more specifics about this new system shall we. The Judging System First we will discuss what i feel is the most important issue of all. That being tonal (and harmonic) balance and accuracy. If a reproduced trumpet does not have the same tonality and harmonic structure as a real one, then who cares if it is precisely imaged or how deep it is within the soundscape? It still does not sound close to that of a real trumpet. Once overall tonality is surmised we can break down the frequency range into sections. Sub-bass being from 10Hz to 60Hz (dark blue), midbass as 60Hz to 200Hz (lighter blue), midrange as 200Hz to 3,000Hz (green, with middle "C" being orange), and high-frequencies as 3,000Hz on up (red). As you can see from the above piano, most musical notes are in the midrange (green). This is also true with the acoustic music we hear. Generally, most of it is reproduced by the driver(s) that cover from 200Hz to 3000Hz. Since no natural instrument i know of produces a "pure" tone, we also have an instrument's timbre to consider. For instance, a trumpet may be playing a middle "C", yet we also hear the higher and lower frequency tones added into the pure tone such as those from the trumpet's brass bell. This is what we call timbre and also referred to as the harmonics of an instrument. http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/judging/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coytee Posted April 20, 2010 Share Posted April 20, 2010 If you get the LaScalas and later on, start to research crossover choices.... you are welcome to come to my place (Knoxville, TN) and bring your amps if you wish. I've got a pair of 1979 LaScalas with Al K's 'extreme slope' crossovers in them. There are many choices with crossovers and these are probably the more expensive road you could travel. If you chose to do this, it would give you a flavor of how they sound prior to making any purchases. You could also simply spend $100 or something and refresh up what you already have. I could drag one of them outdoors so we could remove any room issues. Just some thoughts for you, honest offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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