orrb_05 Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 Was thinking something sealed so it will be tight and fast, but not sure. Was also considering the RT12d or RSW-10d. Help me out folks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 You could get two used RSW-15's for under $1500.00 and they'd be a perfect match for the 7's in a two-channel set-up. I had them and wish I had them back since I only do two-channel now. [:^)] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captmobley Posted February 21, 2011 Share Posted February 21, 2011 My SVS is awesome! I highly recommend any product they produce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSUBALES Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I love my HSU VTF-15H It is a vary flexible sub. If you have room for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCliff Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 For under $1500 I would suggest the following: http://www.svsound.com/products-sub-box-pb12plus.cfm and http://www.hsuresearch.com/products/uls15.html Can not go wrong with either one/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I too prefer sealed...... That being said: http://www.epiksubwoofers.com/dualempire.html Epik Dual Empires will definitely provide what you seek. (These are solid down to 20 hz; and get rave reviews). Good Luck on your Sub quest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 22, 2011 Author Share Posted February 22, 2011 Right now it's a toss-up between the HSU VTF-15h and the Epic Empire - I do like a sealed sub better for music, but the HSU seems to be getting great reviews - only problem is that I don't want a sub to overwhelm the room physically - sonically is acceptable however I guess the Epic is not as big as the VTF though - any thought on the RMS for each sub - 350 vs 500?? Does the fact that the 300w is ported and the 500w is sealed balance out? Bottom line is I do not want a boomy response from the sub. Thanks for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigCliff Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 The smaller the volume of the enclosure the more power you will need to get the same results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FSUBALES Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 A post from Pete From HSU research "The build quality, sound quality, feature set, and output capability of this new subwoofer is extremely impressive. One would need ULS-15 DualDrive to match/exceed the clean output capability of one VTF-15H from 16-100Hz. Of course, the VTF-15H is twice the size too, but very impressive in many respects!" Thats 2 ULS-15 Drivers to 1 VTF Wow now thats impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I'm partial to dual subs unless you intend to go with a very low x/o. SVS, Epik, Hsu are all killer values. Dayton Titanic III 15" on sale is also very good. The Velodyne DEQ-15R has a bit less output, but is very civilized, with built-in 5-band EQ. More food for thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quiet_Hollow Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 For less than $1000 you can get a builder to make a Bill Fitzmaurice Table Tuba shipped to your door. That, or I'm sure Mr. Hedden at Danley could hook you up with a CS30 for right around the high side of your budget. Both, IMHO, are some of the finest consumer level horn-loaded subwoofer product of the last decade. Either one will leave your jaw on the floor and a dollop in your pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I am sorry; a sealed enclosure to me always sounds better. It's quicker by design; the backpressure rebounds the sub back quicker. Never any burping; never any chuffing. Tuba (horn) subs are a different animal..... They are capable of mega amounts of bass, but it is a very different sound. (If sealed is one end of the spectrum and ported is the middle; Folded Horn sub is the other end of the spectrum). No flaming please; to each his own....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 A post from Pete From HSU research "The build quality, sound quality, feature set, and output capability of this new subwoofer is extremely impressive. One would need ULS-15 DualDrive to match/exceed the clean output capability of one VTF-15H from 16-100Hz. Of course, the VTF-15H is twice the size too, but very impressive in many respects!" Thats 2 ULS-15 Drivers to 1 VTF Wow now thats impressive. But it is a huge footprint( ~2.5 times bigger!!!)..... Unless it is in a dance hall; such a big enclosure is difficult to place properly. I could quote the reviews of the Dual Empirw setup; but I think it is better to let the OP do some research. Ultimately; it is his ears; his layout; his situation; and his ears........ (and his money). OP.... Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 22, 2011 Share Posted February 22, 2011 I guess the Epic is not as big as the VTF though - any thought on the RMS for each sub - 350 vs 500?? Does the fact that the 300w is ported and the 500w is sealed balance out? Bottom line is I do not want a boomy response from the sub. Thanks for the input. Yep; you are on the right track. The RMS probably balances; typically Ported (or folded horn) subs require less power to acheive similar results. (The HSU is likely not to be boomy). But I still feel the sealed Epik will be more ACCURATE...... tighter...... quicker..... These are my thoughts...... I am passionate about this...... You ultimately need to decide for yourself. (Hard to do when you can not demo a sub). You live near Chicago? My sub is no Epik; but is sealed and can give you a general idea of how a sealed sub sounds...... (One Epik Empire is probably approaching 160% of my performance; 2 Epik Empires? sick).... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 I guess the Epic is not as big as the VTF though - any thought on the RMS for each sub - 350 vs 500?? Does the fact that the 300w is ported and the 500w is sealed balance out? Bottom line is I do not want a boomy response from the sub. Thanks for the input. Yep; you are on the right track. The RMS probably balances; typically Ported (or folded horn) subs require less power to acheive similar results. (The HSU is likely not to be boomy). But I still feel the sealed Epik will be more ACCURATE...... tighter...... quicker..... These are my thoughts...... I am passionate about this...... You ultimately need to decide for yourself. (Hard to do when you can not demo a sub). You live near Chicago? My sub is no Epik; but is sealed and can give you a general idea of how a sealed sub sounds...... (One Epik Empire is probably approaching 160% of my performance; 2 Epik Empires? sick).... Well - I'm coming from a Velodyne Optimum 12 (sealed 1200w RMS - 2400w peak). It did not seem to be keeping up with my RF-7s. Either that, or I don't have the ear for this. When I ran the RF-7s in 2ch stereo, with & without the Velodyne, there was not enough low end difference to justify the $1400 Velodyne - very disappointing. I'm contemplating just going with what I know, which is a Klipsch RSW-10 or 12. I had the RSW-10 with a pair of RB-5s about seven years ago, and from what I can recall, it sounded great for music. It is a pain when you can't audition without expending cash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWL Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 If you live near me I can give you an SVS audition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 It is a pain when you can't audition without expending cash. This point I agree with..... 100% In regards to the Velo; that is a really good sub also. Are you sure it was set up properly? (Position; crossover and phase?) (If you are using a receiver) Did you try running the RF7s at "small" and crossing at say... 60 hz? I know it made a huge difference when I let the sub only do most of the bass handling. Your ears may vary........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 If you live near me I can give you an SVS audition. Thanks, but I'm just a few states too far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 23, 2011 Author Share Posted February 23, 2011 It is a pain when you can't audition without expending cash. This point I agree with..... 100% In regards to the Velo; that is a really good sub also. Are you sure it was set up properly? (Position; crossover and phase?) (If you are using a receiver) Did you try running the RF7s at "small" and crossing at say... 60 hz? I know it made a huge difference when I let the sub only do most of the bass handling. Your ears may vary........ It was set up properly - Velo uses a mic and runs test tones for room optimization. I tried it in different spots as well, which helped some, but not much. I also tried it with the RF-7s as small, large, and with bass to both - I messed around with the crossover at 80, 60, and 40. Perhaps it was just blending so well that I was not noticing a dramatic difference - I was never able to localize the sub, so that's one good thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tromprof Posted February 23, 2011 Share Posted February 23, 2011 For less than $1000 you can get a builder to make a Bill Fitzmaurice Table Tuba shipped to your door. That, or I'm sure Mr. Hedden at Danley could hook you up with a CS30 for right around the high side of your budget. Both, IMHO, are some of the finest consumer level horn-loaded subwoofer product of the last decade. Either one will leave your jaw on the floor and a dollop in your pants. If you have decent wood working skills you can build a tuba sub for around $400 that will have a build quality better than anything available commercially. I built mine out of a combination of 3/4 and 1/2 inch baltic birch. (http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/142985.aspx) It works beautifully with my La Scalas for both music and movies, and I am sure it would do the same for your RF-7s. If you are near Cincy I would be happy to let you hear it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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