psg Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Well - I'm coming from a Velodyne Optimum 12 (sealed 1200w RMS - 2400w peak). It did not seem to be keeping up with my RF-7s. Either that, or I don't have the ear for this. When I ran the RF-7s in 2ch stereo, with & without the Velodyne, there was not enough low end difference to justify the $1400 Velodyne - very disappointing. If the music doesn't have lower bass than the RF7 could handle, than you shouldn't expect it to sound different. A sub shouldn't draw attention to itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Well - I'm coming from a Velodyne Optimum 12 (sealed 1200w RMS - 2400w peak). It did not seem to be keeping up with my RF-7s. Either that, or I don't have the ear for this. When I ran the RF-7s in 2ch stereo, with & without the Velodyne, there was not enough low end difference to justify the $1400 Velodyne - very disappointing. If the music doesn't have lower bass than the RF7 could handle, than you shouldn't expect it to sound different. A sub shouldn't draw attention to itself. Yep.... +1!!!! A properly set up sub should integrate seamlessly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Then the Velodyne worked fabulously, because there was no distiguishing were the bass was comong from, yet there was no significant improvement - I had a hard time telling if the sub was even on at times. This then adds to my delima. Maybe the question I should be asking is: Do I really need a subwoofer with a pair of RF-7s for dedicated 2 channel system? I can't see waisting the money on $1500+ subwoofer if I am not getting a significant audible return on my money. Perhaps I should buy another RB-1080 an bi-amp the RF-7s instead? Thanks All for the input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironsave Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Then the Velodyne worked fabulously, because there was no distiguishing were the bass was comong from, yet there was no significant improvement - I had a hard time telling if the sub was even on at times. This then adds to my delima. Maybe the question I should be asking is: Do I really need a subwoofer with a pair of RF-7s for dedicated 2 channel system? I can't see waisting the money on $1500+ subwoofer if I am not getting a significant audible return on my money. Perhaps I should buy another RB-1080 an bi-amp the RF-7s instead? Thanks All for the input. To help answer your own question...... Do you consistantly listen to music with high LFE? (Pipe organ music; Reaggaton; Dance Music; Some Death Metal bands; etc?) Your Velo likely got down below 20 hz...... But that is not needed for 2 channel if you only listen to music that goes down to 35-30hz...... (Which the RF7s can do almost all of)...... Maybe bi amping might be a better option...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max2 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 Lots of good values thrown out there in this thread. I would look for the most balanced sub for the buck if I was buying. Its hard to find a sub that will produce 12-16HZ for HT at a decent db and then turn around and double as a "musical" sub. I have listened to a few out there, but it was a no brainer for me when it came time to choosing just one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shake777 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 If you want see my RT12d for 675 in the garage sale. Im posting a better looking cleaned up verson of that sub in another photo soon. Its really a good looking well playing speaker. It sounds good with the RF7 as I have them. Thanks, Nic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 If you're considering going back to a Klipsch sub, I would highly recommend picking up a RSW15 and giving that a listen with the 7's for 2 channel. I've tried others but IMHO that combination is wonderful for audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tblake10 Posted February 24, 2011 Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like my HSU VTF-MK3 a lot for around 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 Those are slim picken's - wish I could find one though!! If you're considering going back to a Klipsch sub, I would highly recommend picking up a RSW15 and giving that a listen with the 7's for 2 channel. I've tried others but IMHO that combination is wonderful for audio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orrb_05 Posted February 24, 2011 Author Share Posted February 24, 2011 I was eyeballing the VTF-15h - it's just a friggin' beast in size - great price however. I like my HSU VTF-MK3 a lot for around 600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 25, 2011 Share Posted February 25, 2011 Those are slim picken's - wish I could find one though!
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