Guest " " Posted April 5, 2011 Share Posted April 5, 2011 yep...evolution is good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brac Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 So any idea, where the fancy ply originally came from, or what the first guy paid for it? I gotta take up a speaker project, but if I start building speaks before the wife gets cabinet doors, I might have to live in a speaker box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted April 6, 2011 Author Share Posted April 6, 2011 So any idea, where the fancy ply originally came from, or what the first guy paid for it? I gotta take up a speaker project, but if I start building speaks before the wife gets cabinet doors, I might have to live in a speaker box.I called a Craigslist ad and the story I got was a company that built custom cabinets in R.I. made any cab from low end to high end. They had a Quonset hut out back with which they would store full sheets of leftover or partially damaged plywood or veneered MDF for later. There was mostly veneered MDF but in his van the guy responsible for disposing of it all had 6 or 7 sheets of fancy Veneered plywood. I got 2 full sheets of ash (97 x 49 inch), 2 half sheets of ash and 2 damaged (forklift) 4 x 10 sheets of Mahogany for $40. I wish I had bought more but the rest of the veneered plywood was a single sheet and I wanted to enclose the backs of the Klipschorns at that time. Last summer I was looking for birch plywood and found someone else that had 39 sheets of birch for $20 a sheet but I couldn't (didn't think!) I could use that much, plus just storing nearly a lift of plywood presents a challenge to me so that deal slid away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brac Posted April 6, 2011 Share Posted April 6, 2011 I hope you kept the guys number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 I needed to clean up my project list before Istart on the latest CSM-1 that I have started to talk about in anothertopic. I cut enough parts last year for 4 of these bass bins and have moved thepair of parts I didn’t build last year 3 or 4 times already so last night I gotout the sides and motorboards out and looked them over to decide which sideswere the best and pair up the parts. I still don't have horns for them but if I wait till I find them they will just keep getting moved and buggeredup. I got out the Jasper circle cutter and remembered just in time that Ineeded to adjust the pin hole that I needed to use was not what was listed onthe jig due to the fact that my spiral up cut bit was an 3/8 inch instead of ¼ inch.Seems I forget more and more each year but I think I got them right as theymatch the ones I made last year. So far so good, now I have to go and find theheat gun so I can edge band the woofer hole. I am thinking of leaving out muchof the added bracing or installing after I glue them up. I am just a novice andlearning assembly techniques. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 last years jig to hold the motorboards without screwing into the inside surface. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 First motorboard woofer hole cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Two screws into the hole that is being cut out to prevent it from moving once the hole is cut all of the way through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Parts are parts, thats a lot of mahogany to show off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacksonbart Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Tokyo better watch out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Tokyo better watch out! Well they are pointed in a south eastery direction. does that mean I need to re aim them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 I had a slow day and not much accomplished, I did manage tofinish the edge banding inside the woofer opening and drill the pilot holes formounting it but that was about all. I then started thinking about the first twoI had assembled and although the second one was a bit better than the first I stillhad some quality issues that I wanted to take care of. With the last one I hadall of the cleats cut and they stacked up fine dry but as I glued thingstogether I got some height creep from what I believe was a lack of glue squeezeout on the ends of the cleats. The fact that the motorboard was cut short ofthe ports meant that height could fluctuate and it did. The sides were a fixed lengthso it ended up looking like they were prototypes (because they were).I looked at the internal bracing and decided to leave out one of the twobulkheads to ease assembly and allow me to install the vertical cleats after.The last one built was assembled with the motoboard down so I also had problemsflushing up the sides, top, and bottom with it as the motorboard wasn’t totallyflat. Remember this plywood was rejected from a cabinet company and I gave $20for 2 full sheets of damaged 4 x 10 the mahogany plywood and another $20 for acouple of cut-offs I thought about it and decided to mock up what I had and getsome pictures and fine tune it before I got the glue and clamps out. I am thinking that this might be better way to go and thesephotos show some of the initial process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 The small blocks between the motorboard and the port shelf ar not part of the cabinet, they ar only there as height spacers to keep the port shelf from falling over durring assembly and to set the height of the port opening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 No glue, screws or nails yet in these pictures everything is just free standing. Port shelf standing and slid towards the motorboard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Brace inserted into the picture and the spacer blocks can be seen holding up the port side and center pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Bottom added into the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 Same as the last picture, just another angle. There is one vertical brace that will be added in the middle of the back at this point but it's not cut to lenght yet. This vertical piece will be used to secure the center of the back to the cab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 28, 2012 Author Share Posted January 28, 2012 At this point the motorboard will be flipped over and the top will be installed. I am showing it as the motorboard and top in this photo just to show the cool bench that seems to offer access to the inside of the cabinet as its being built. Tough to flip what was shown the previous picture as it would just fall apart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidF Posted January 29, 2012 Share Posted January 29, 2012 How can you put a finish over this. Mahogany Raw the only way to go! (Yes, Fake badge again on the fake) You are convincing me! Adds to the clean lines of the woodworking and likely makes the enclosure appear smaller than it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted January 29, 2012 Author Share Posted January 29, 2012 How can you put a finish over this. Mahogany Raw the only way to go! (Yes, Fake badge again on the fake) You are convincing me! Adds to the clean lines of the woodworking and likely makes the enclosure appear smaller than it is. If they came out better than they did, I may have had them clear coated with automotive clearcoat, The first pair definately have some quality issues. I not to sure if this pair will be better or not, maybe Tuesday I'll know more on how my new assembly method worked out. I got some progress today, I'm still not happy on how the cleats screw on with the glue. I am more than likely using too much but I sure like to know that there is enough and without squeeze out I am left guessing. I think I need more practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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