garyeanderson Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 I hope to get the bottom and sides on today, we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 I hate to hear that you're out of work, but what a great way to pass the time. Looking fabulous thanks for the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share Posted February 4, 2012 I hate to hear that you're out of work, but what a great way to pass the time. Looking fabulous thanks for the pictures. Hi Pete I wouldn't feel bad, most of it's my own fault. At my age I am tired of breaking in new bosses as they seem to expect a lot more than I am not willing to give now. The people that toss me work know what I am good at and what I am not. They are smart enough to know what I am good at or can do so I don't make them look bad. New bosses don't see things like that and i'm gone before too long so I just save that step and live by getting by as best I can. Lots of projects, some that sell and some that are mine for life. The last bottom had a bow in it so it didn't need all 6 clamps, I had to go and find the long reach Jorgenson but it's nice to have bought them back when I had a steady employment at Digital Equipment (its been a while). Things that seldom get used but are a life saver when you need them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete H Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 The last bottom had a bow in it so it didn't need all 6 clamps, I had to go and find the long reach Jorgenson but it's nice to have bought them back when I had a steady employment at Digital Equipment (its been a while). Things that seldom get used but are a life saver when you need them. I'm beginning to learn that you can never have enough clamps; funny, I built for many years and only needed a handful but now that I do the occasional DIY cabinet I have 20 and need 20 more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I hope to get the bottom and sides on today, we will see. I didn't get the above done yesterday. I seemed to be at it for enough time to do it but my parts conspired against my ability as a woodworker. I decided to start with the worst of the 2 sides. It was probably the worst looking of all 8 sides that were cut last year. There was one long gouge that didn't go through the mahogany veneer but was deep enough to fill. I spent some time making splinters and fitting them into the gouge. It’s not gone but it has been lessened so that it does not jump out at you after. This side was also bowed from top to bottom; the good side of the bow was such that the cup was rocking in the middle as the side rested on the carcass. I set the top first and that lifted the other end up about a quarter inch. Trying to adjust this end and get the front corner set proved to be beyond me. I got it close and moved it a few times and each time one of the alignments was off either the side to front or side to top. I left it as good enough as the glue was just making more work for me as I slide the side around. I finished up with the 9 clamps and let it dry. After they were removed this is what I was looking at. I wasn't pleased: more thinking and I pulled back the edge trim along the front of the side at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I tapered a piece of edge banding and then applied heat and pulled back the existing side trim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 I then estimated how much needed to be slid under theexisting edge trim and ironed it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 At this point I would like to say “fixed” but it stilllooked like $h1t so I pulled off the trim across the top and re-trimmed that,that made the front edge trim look worse, so off that came too. In the end thisis how it came out and the second (flat) side will now go on. Hope folks areenjoying this and learning as I have though this forum. Lots of others haveposted their projects so that I was willing to try my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacea Engineering Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Gary, Great recovery.....! I've found that wood working becomes a balance of compromises, as I have not found anything that worked out perfect....that is when the "Close Enough" comes into play. Learning all of the little tricks to hide the imperfections, is the total battle, when it comes to building something out of wood. Even in the best case scenerio, with what is classified as #1, best grade materials, you still have to do it.....as long as you can 'Trick" the eye into thinking it looks great, you have suceeded....! The best part of any wood project is sanding and filling until you get the finished surface, that you desire. I'm sure that veneer was invented because the old "Masters" got tired of trashing very expensive solid lumber. Plywood is very forgiving, solid Cherry or Mahogony is NOT.........! W. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 5, 2012 Author Share Posted February 5, 2012 W. C. Yes we see things much the same. I don't know many that can doperfection without an oop’s, from start to finish. Starting with #1 materialonly allows one to be furious with ones self as the Oh ca-ca mounts. These cabswere to be a learning experience from the start, One tries to do ones best andwe sometimes fall short, as you say, it’s the recovery is what distinguishesthe masters from the hacks, I am still the later. The other side is on and itlooks ok but there will be some more tricks to play with the bottom edgebanding, it's just the way it worked out. I still want to leave the cabs raw. Itried some BLO on a sample and it looked just stupendous when poured on, Iwiped it down and let dry and its was only a so so finish, several coats laterit didn’t improve much. A clear coat may work on them but then again thereare issues that would be high lighted too. With Raw the first pair are greatlookers from 8 feet, these will be 4 or 5 footers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panacea Engineering Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Gary, If you haven't tried it yet....Get a pint of Watco. I use natural but it comes in many variations. I rub it on and let sit then wipe with a CLEAN soft (cotton) rag. Old T shirts are gerat...! To build the finish, I get 500 grit wet/dry automotive sand paper. It is black in colour. I wet sand between coats with the Watco and the more coats you do, the better the finish. The sanding creates a clean slurry that fills any imperfections and the more you sand, the smoother the finish. it will not be glossy but a very smoothe satin finish that has a great feeling to the touch. I will swear by the Watco because it will make the worst looking raw veneer look its best. Give it a try as you will only be out the cost of a pint of Watco and a dollar or so for the sandpaper if you don't like it. The secret is the WET sanding using the Watco as the medium and the number of times you do it. It usually takes three sandings sometimes more depending on the wood you are working with NO hard sanding, just very lite strokes and you will be able to tell when the process starts to work by the resistance to the sanding process. Keep it wet and be sure to wipe CLEAN between coats.The labor for the sanding is free...... I very rarely do any other type of finishing other than on some I have sprayed a coat of clear lacquer. If you don't use the lacquer, you will occasionally need to apply a coat of the Watco, maybe every six months or so and just minor dusting on a regular basis....(something that very rarely happens around here because I have not been able to train the dog to dust or vacuum yet)...... W. C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 6, 2012 Author Share Posted February 6, 2012 I finished gluing todayand the backs are fitted. I need to drill the backs for the 24 - 2 inchstainless screws and a few other details. For the most part the pile of cut andedge banded panels that was taking up space is gone and in its place are two largeboxes. I need to re-evaluate the lascala clones and decide if the woofers willget robbed to play these or just let them sit for a while. I hope folks had funwatching the progress; I sure had some fun and challenges building them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 7, 2012 Author Share Posted February 7, 2012 There is enough for risers too, they were short at 1.75 inches. That was all of the plywood left over so that was the tallest I could make them and make four. I guess after that these will sit for a while. Oh yea, the backs are a double lamination of 12mm Baltic birch so they are pretty stiff. To be Continued... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mungkiman Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 Nice project. Beautiful work! Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted February 10, 2012 Author Share Posted February 10, 2012 Hi Chris Thanks for the compliment, the dimensions too. The black klipsch pies also look great on them too. I also finished gluing up the risers yesterday so this project is at a standstill for a while, I still need to drill the backs but I have wedged one cab open a bit to see if I can get the inward bow lessened some what on one of the sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garyeanderson Posted March 6, 2012 Author Share Posted March 6, 2012 I saw a post from gregg357 about upgrading his Khornsand Belle's to some Crites cast frame 1526 woofers so I emailed some photos ofthe back chambers and mentioned I would be interested in the take outs. He repliedand that lead to a phone call and we rendezvoused at the Blueberry Muffin downby the Cape Cod Cannel for an exchangeon Sunday morning. It was good to see him again (Thanks Gregg) and we talked a bit about somestuff and then we left both satisfied that things worked out for both of us.Yesterday I took the backs off of the yet to be completed bass bins and markedand drilled the holes that hadn’t happener and then carried the separate partsdown stairs where they will live for a while and proceeded to install the K33’s.I still need to get gaskets for the backs before I screw them into place butthey are one step closer from the pile of plywood that I had been keeping for ayear. The second set of K33’s will probably go into the pair of Khorn bass binsthat I robbed to get the first pair of cornzilla’s working OR the next projectthat comes into view, either the CSM-1 or MWM clones I have some photos and will add them later when things arn't so busy on the Klipsch forum and I stop getting Server time outs, seems to be a real problem for me as I still have dial-up connection and the bandwidth for the server has some sort of time limit. Server Error in '/' Application. Request timed out. Description: Anunhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current webrequest. Please review the stack trace for more information about theerror and where it originated in the code. Exception Details: System.Web.HttpException: Request timed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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