boa12 Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 some of mine also for cosmetics: (as max noted) beatle's white album (white vinyl), moody blues (blue vinyl), fabulous poodles (pink vinyl). may wanna check out "speakerboy" section on the www.klipsch.com in the "listening lounge" section off the main page. he lives nearby. klipsch rep i met at a dealer here. great guy & really into vinyl - gave me some catalogs w/ all kinds of vinyl releases (even newer ones). ------------------ My Home Systems Page This message has been edited by boa12 on 05-15-2002 at 02:57 AM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Garrison Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 The very bestest record I ever owned, or heard for that matter, was: The Fox Touch, Volume One Crystal Clear Recordings # CCS-7001 (Virgil Fox playing organ music, Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D minor, Jongen's Toccata from The Symphonie Concertante) This was recorded by Bert Whyte (many might remember him from his writings in the old Audio magazine) live direct to (vinyl) disc in a church. It has the absolute best recorded deep organ tones I have ever heard. I still have this disc, but it is almost unplayable. A long time ago, when there were a lot of different products on the market to "clean" LPs, I tried something (don't remember product name or manufacturer). It was a tube of clear liquid you spread on a record (like a big Ban roll-on deoderant), waited for the liquid to dry to a clear film, then peeled off the record, carrying with it all the nasty things that were grundging up your record. I applied it to the record, and when I tried to peel it off, it didn't come off in one sheet. It tore into little bitty bits, some of which were so tightly bonded to the record I couldn't get them off. I scrubbed and scrubbed it, but when I tried to play it, it was full of nasty sounding ticks and pops where (I imagine) almost microscopically small bits of this stuff were still stuck to the groove walls. What a bummer. ------------------ Music is art Audio is engineering Ray's Music System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDBRbuilder Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 Ray, I knew somebody who used that same stuff...with the same results...he came to me asking what he should do, the LP looked like spilt cornflakes and milk had dried on it...LOL! So much for that company's reputation!! I told him, "Hey man, I told you just to get yourself a couple of parastatic disc preeners, and use one for washing your records, and the other for preening them before playing, but NOOOOOOOOOOO....you had to go ruin your record with that expensive stuff!!" He said, "Yeah, I know...but what do I do now?" He looked really bummed...it was an "original master recording" of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon, too! I said, "Take your album down to the record shop where ya bought that crap...tell em you want them to make good on the damage...get yourself a couple of inexpensive parastatic disc preeners and a new album...then come to me and I will show ya how to clean em from now on." Best way is still to use luke warm water (preferably DISTILLED water)with tiny bit of dishwashing detergent (palmolive is a good one, but you gotta use just a tiny bit...it is pretty strong stuff) and a disc preener to lightly scrub out the grunge from in the grooves....then take very soft absorbant cloth and lightly dab off luke warm rinse water after rinsing (to eliminate any spotting). Then take those thin vinyl album liners, slide them into album's regular liner, store album in those two liners in its cover with the liners facing upwards to eliminate dust gettin inside...has always worked for me. Each time ya wash an album you remove its natural vinyl's lubrication from the surface...and it gets dry until more of that lube weeps out from the vinyl...best not to ever wash em to start with if ya can get away from it...just preen them each time ya play em. I have direct drive turntable...I preen em on the turntable...never had a problem so far...been using same turntable since 1975 (Technics SL-1300)...key is to slowly rotate the preener against turntable movement as you preen em while using light touch, making sure inner wick of preener has proper amount of moisture in it...my albums from then still play like new! The Technics SL-1300 is the same turntable as the SL-1200, but it has automatic features...sold for more than the SL-1200 when both were new just due to this added feature...but most people tend for some reason to think it inferior to the very popular SL-1200 series used for decades as the DJ turntable of choice. Therefore, you see fine examples of SL-1300s going for a song on eBay all the time...seems mighty strange to me!! By the way, unlike many of the other "audiophile" turntables of its day, the SL-1300 direct-drive turntable had memory repeat of up to 5 plays or indefinite replay, automatic set-down, lift-off, arm return, and shut-off---all of these features fully isolated from motor and tonearm during play!!!; was internally wired for optimum performance of CD-4 cartridges(ie., low-capacitance wiring and cables) that had to be able to carry signals of at the minimum, 20-60,000 Hz; it had a 13" aluminum alloy w/motor "stator" platter weighing 3.86 lbs; speed stability of 0.002%(less than 3/4 sec. in 10 hrs)!!!; it had a weighted rumble of -70 dB (better than the top-of-the-line Thorens TD125AB Mark II's -68 dB), wow & flutter of 0.03% W rms (again better than that Thorens at its 0.06%); fine range pitch adjustment range of 10%(again better than that Thorens); and had a better low-mass...low resonance...gimbal-suspended(4 pairs of pivot bearings for rotational sensitivity)tonearm than the Thorens; and a great feedback cancelling isolating foot system (something the Thorens lacked), all the other high-end bells and whistles of top of the line turntables of its day, and was tougher than the Thorens. That top of the line Thorens listed for $410 in 1976, the Technics SL-1300 listed for $300!! The SL-1200 listed for $280!! Alot of today's mega-buck "audiophile" turntables don't do a damned bit better than that (at least not noticeable to your ears!!), except possibly in the tonearm department...Wonder why not? And you can get a good used SL-1300 for under 200 bucks(normally alot less than that!)all the time on eBay!!!! Go Figure!! ------------------ If you want to send a private message, or have already done so, be aware I have not as yet been able to retrieve them. Send e-maill instead, please...just note Klipsch forum in the heading so it doesn't get deleted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boa12 Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 ray, how 'bout that sound guard "record perservation system"? used that way back & it did seem to work pretty well w/o audio quality deterioration. & btw as i think i've mentioned, still have my "vac-o-rec" w/ the real goat hair, though the motor is starting to die. ------------------ My Home Systems Page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted May 15, 2002 Share Posted May 15, 2002 My favorite vinyl album has to be "WEBN...The Vinyl Days". It is a compilation project album from a local hard rock radio station, all though back in 1976 when this came out it was more of cool rock. Anyway, the profits from the sale of this piece went to United Appeal. It sold for only $1.50! Needless to say I have accumulated more than a few copies of this and have worn out a couple. The collection consists of local recording artists that hope to make it in the big time. It ranges from the silly, serious, whimsical, solos, and down right good feelin'. Some of the tracks, I am very suprised, are not heard as everyday play. Since the first release of this masterpiece there have been nine more yearly new collections, known as "The Album Project" #2 through #9. and then an anniversery edition. I'm sure DEANG has heard of these since he lives only about 60 miles away. ------------------ Tom's Money Pit This message has been edited by tblasing on 05-15-2002 at 10:54 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted May 19, 2002 Author Share Posted May 19, 2002 Thanks to everyone who took the time to list their favorite vinyl titles. The list will be helpful as I search for more LP's this summer. Many thanks! Wes Was hard to select, but here's a list of some favorites of mine: Donald Byrd - Black Byrd (1972) War - The World Is A Getto (1972) Stevie Wonder - Innervisions (1973) Marvin Gaye - Let's Get It On (1973) Curtis Mayfield _ Curtis In Chicago(Live)(Collectors Edition) (1973) Bobbi Humphery - Blacks & Blues (1973) Traffic - Traffic On The Road (1973) Live Tour In Germany Bobbi Humphery - Satin Doll (1974) The Four Tops - Meeting Of The Minds - (1974) Minnie Riperton - Perfect Angel (1974) Eagles - One Of These Nights (1976) Chicago - Chicago 10 (1976) Stanley Turrentine - Nightwings (1977) Santana - Festival (1977) Bob James - Touchdown (1978) Hiroshima - Hiroshima (1979) Harvey Mason - Groovin' You (1979) Bobby Womack - The Road Of Life (1979) Minnie Riperton - Minnie (1979) Jean-Luc Ponty - Civilized Evil (1980) Hiroshima - Another Place (1985) Michael Franks - Skin Dive (1985) Almost forgot this one, good percussion's, drums, bass & vocals esp. w/Brenda Russell Rodney Franklin - It Takes Two (1986)(Gives horns & bass a H@!! of a workout!) Andreas Vollenweider - Down To The Moon (1986) f>s>c> ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> This message has been edited by ShapeShifter on 05-19-2002 at 05:48 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazman Posted May 19, 2002 Share Posted May 19, 2002 Wes, I've been trying to come up with a "small, short" list but it will take some time. I'll post the short list and send you an email with a longer list. My problem is narrowing the 400 pieces of vinyl to 20 or less. I am having fun reviewing them thanks to your post. Klipsch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted May 20, 2002 Author Share Posted May 20, 2002 jazman, Look forward to your submissions. Going through my collection brought about a lot of pleasure and a bit of anguish too. Several older LP's are not listenable on a revealing setup. Don't know if they're salvageable....That really hurts! Wes ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted May 21, 2002 Share Posted May 21, 2002 Here's a few of mine from my collection of 600 (all bought during my AF days in Germany from '78 to '82)... Santa Esmeralda (w/Leroy Gomez) - Don't Let Me Be Misunderstood (Outstanding recording!) Chicago Transit Authority - I (Some very innovative work here!) Heart - Dreamboat Annie (Another great recording!) The Cars - (1st Album) Steely Dan - (Can't Buy a Thrill, Pretzel Logic, The Royal Scam, Countdown to Ecstasy and Aja) Elton John - Madman Across the Water Rickie Lee Jones - (1st Album) Rickie Lee Jones - Girl At Her Volcano (Best version of "Walk Away Renee" ever) Rickie Lee Jones - Pirates (You could say I'm a casual fan ) Al Dimeola - Elegant Gypsy (It's addicting!) Supertramp (Crime of the Century, Even in the Quietest Moments) Pablo Cruise - A Place in the Sun (Well recorded and great songs!) Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (A Classic!) Al Stewart - (Year of the Cat, Time Passages) Quarterflash - (1st Album) Chris Rea - Whatever Happened to Benny Santini (His best) Styx - The Grand Illusion (One of my faves!) There's plenty more but these are just some of the albums that get a lot of play on my system... Mike ------------------ My Music Systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShapeShifter Posted May 21, 2002 Author Share Posted May 21, 2002 Mike, Thanks! Wow....I bought that same Pablo Cruise LP around 1977. Still in good condition. ------------------ KLIPSCH IS MUSICf> My Systems f>s>c> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Lindsey Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 No problem. Yeah, I was always a pretty big PC fan. World's Away and Reflector are excellent as well... Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mighty Favog Posted May 22, 2002 Share Posted May 22, 2002 Just about anything that ELP ever did! ------------------ Tom's Money Pit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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