kenratboy Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 I have a Matrox G450 now, and am getting sick of playing games a 5 FPS, so I took matters into my own hands and ordered a (see title of post) online. There were other cards with a slight preformance advantage, but the Visiontek is VERY hi-qiality (look at its capacitors, they are about 5X more expensive than normal ones) and has a lifetime warranty. Also, they are a big company and I will be able to get support if I need it, like drivers and warranty usage. Well, I am going from playing games on a 2D card to a GeForce4, so I think I will be happy. ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpg Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 Well, I have a geForce3 TI200 and get around 7-25 fps in Half-Life, just so you know. It seems as though nVidia cards had some problems with older VIA chipsets.... and you aresupposed to update the 4 in 1 druvers to fix this. BUT when i even try to update my videocard drivers, i get more system lockups than anything. So I am not even gonna try motherboard drivers.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 24, 2002 Share Posted July 24, 2002 You should have waited for the ATI Radeon 9700. ------------------ Coming soon... Home Theater: TV: Panasonic TX-36P500X (36" Direct View 16:9 HDTV) A/V Receiver: Marantz SR9200 DVD Player: (Still deciding) Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: Dual SVS CS-Ultras w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 24, 2002 Author Share Posted July 24, 2002 ATI SUCKS!!!s> END- I will NEVER EVER buy a ATI card, ever. Yes, it looks nice, but it's still an ATI. ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 ATI sucks?? Reasons please. I have an ATI Radeon 64MB DDR VIVO right now and I love it. ------------------ Coming soon... Home Theater: TV: Panasonic TX-36P500X (36" Direct View 16:9 HDTV) A/V Receiver: Marantz SR9200 DVD Player: (Still deciding) Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: Dual SVS CS-Ultras w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 25, 2002 Share Posted July 25, 2002 BTW, if you haven't read reviews, the ATI Radeon 9700 is blowing everything nVidia has to offer right now. ------------------ Coming soon... Home Theater: TV: Panasonic TX-36P500X (36" Direct View 16:9 HDTV) A/V Receiver: Marantz SR9200 DVD Player: (Still deciding) Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: Dual SVS CS-Ultras w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 25, 2002 Author Share Posted July 25, 2002 First, the 9700 is out of my price range. Which leaves the 9000, which my GeForce4 is on par with. I like nVidia more, and I need a nVidia chipset to do some mods to (to turn it into a Quatro), which will be a 20% boost in preformance. Also, this card is the standard, its mature as hell and I will trust it. Yes, the 9700 is blowing the $hit out of the Ti4600, I know, and I will not try to discredit that. ATI just isn't the card for me, OK? ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Okay. ------------------ Coming soon... Home Theater: TV: Panasonic TX-36P500X (36" Direct View 16:9 HDTV) A/V Receiver: Marantz SR9200 DVD Player: (Still deciding) Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: Dual SVS CS-Ultras w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 26, 2002 Author Share Posted July 26, 2002 OK then? ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kain Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 Yup, okay...ok. ------------------ Coming soon... Home Theater: TV: Panasonic TX-36P500X (36" Direct View 16:9 HDTV) A/V Receiver: Marantz SR9200 DVD Player: (Still deciding) Center: Klipsch RC-7 Mains: Klipsch RF-7s Surrounds: Klipsch RS-7s Subwoofer: Dual SVS CS-Ultras w/Samson S1000 amplifier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougdrake Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 'k? ------------------ My System Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripod Posted July 26, 2002 Share Posted July 26, 2002 okay This reminds me of a call from last week's episode of Crank Yankers, anyone else see it? That show cracks me up. You can't beat naked puppets. No really, there are laws against it in many states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 27, 2002 Author Share Posted July 27, 2002 You can take my dignity, but you can't choose my graphics card!!! ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobile homeless Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 Kenratlad, I am interested in buying your Matrox G450 for cheap if you are interested. I dont play any games but need a rock solid 2D card for my 21" monitor. The Matrox is far better for 2D than 3D. I emailed you but not sure if it went through. kh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeast Posted July 28, 2002 Share Posted July 28, 2002 quote: Originally posted by kenratboy: ATI SUCKS!!!s> END- I will NEVER EVER buy a ATI card, ever. Yes, it looks nice, but it's still an ATI. I thought they did to until i saw the 9700. Even with ATI's terrible beta drivers it still outperforms the GF4TI4600 by a large margin. Even if you hate ATI you have to admit the 9700 is a better card. Even in a benchmark that was made for nvidia cards the 9700 doubled the GF4's scores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 29, 2002 Author Share Posted July 29, 2002 mobile homeless, I e-mailed you at 5:45 PM your time. Let me know, its a GREAT card! ------------------------------------------------------ Now for ATI, well, it's ATI. If Hyundi had a car that came out and everyone was raving about it, I still wouldn't be interested, why? Because it isn't worth the risk, I mean, ATI may have gotten lucky this time, but how will the drivers age? Again, the ATI is a great card, but I have MUCH more trust in nVidia. By the way, my Ti4200 is SWEET+ ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColaBear Posted July 29, 2002 Share Posted July 29, 2002 Hey Kenratboy, I am surprised that you call 37% - 40% faster benchmarks WITH BETA DRIVERS getting lucky. I have used ATI cards with Intel motherboards for years. NEVER once did I run into a problem with Doom, Unreal, Half-Life or any other other demanding games. But to be fair, I have read of people having problems when they use chipsets other than Intel. I am waiting on the new 9700 card. To me, nVidia is to ATI as AMD is to Intel, always trying to be a bit faster and less expensive (cheaper). I did hardware evals for years for a major (read fortune 50 company) so I got to play with quite a bit of stuff. Give me Microsoft, Dell, Intel, ATI, HP for printers. They are companies that listen to their customer base. Sure, they may cost a bit more upfront, but the gains are in fewer problems and less need for "fixes". It IS good to see other's opinions though. ------------------ KLF-30 mains RSW-15 subwoofer KLF-C7 center KLF-30 side surrounds KSW-200 subwoofer KG-3.5 rear surrounds Denon AVR5800 Pioneer Elite DV09 Pioneer Elite PDF19 RCA DTC100 DSS/HDTV Sony Playstation 2 Denon MD1000 Vidikron Epoch D600 Vutec 100" 4:3 1.5 gain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenratboy Posted July 29, 2002 Author Share Posted July 29, 2002 First, AMD and nVidia are bussom buddies. ******* of each other if you will. Like the nForce MB chipset. Second, AMD has the reputation as the enthusiasts CPU. Third, AMD takes better care of their customers, hence the AMD psoters and stickers I have from AMD, and NOT Intel. Fourth, For equivilant preformance (BENCHMARKS), AMD is a LOT cheaper than Intel, especially if you add in the extra cost of RDRAM compared to DDR. Fifth: AMD - Sledghammer, 64-bit Intel - Canceled 64-bit project nVidia - GeForce5 in a few months ATI - Living large, until a few months from now... ------------------ Receiver: Sony STR-DE675 CD player: Sony CDP-CX300 Turntable: Technics SL-J3 with Audio-Technica TR485U Speakers: JBL HLS-610 Subwoofer: JBL 4648A-8 Sub amp: Parts Express 180 watt Center/surrounds: Teac 3-way bookshelfs Yes, it sucks, but better to come. KLIPSCH soon! My computer is better than my stereo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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