Charles M Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Been looking at receivers from Onkyo Rz , Anthem , Marantz, and I came back to pioneer SC LX 801 . the price is ok considering the price for anthem or Marantz. anyone out there still believe in Pioneer? went to a sound room and it sound great but the speakers they used where worth about $18.000.00 but I do believe it would sound great on my klipsch’s. So does anyone have some info ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Im looking at the same receiver and im wondering the same question . Im looking at that and a yamaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 I here the pioneer is better ? That is your info ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Oh what Yamaha? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomR Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 YAMAHARX-A2070 9.2-Ch x 140 Watts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuzzzer Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Loving my Pioneer SC-LX501. Has all the features I wanted plus tons of power and it sounds beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yes I believe you ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 5 hours ago, TomR said: YAMAHARX-A2070 9.2-Ch x 140 Watts Not a bad unit, but not even close to 140 WPC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 hours ago, The History Kid said: Not a bad unit, but not even close to 140 WPC. Maybe 140 in stereo but more like 50w/ch@8ohms with 7 channels driven. Bill 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Are you saying the Yamaha is not even close to a 140 Watts , I believe the pioneer elite 801 is ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The History Kid Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 36 minutes ago, charles m said: Are you saying the Yamaha is not even close to a 140 Watts , I believe the pioneer elite 801 is ! No it's not. Neither of them are probably more than 60 or 70 all channels driven. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, charles m said: Are you saying the Yamaha is not even close to a 140 Watts , I believe the pioneer elite 801 is ! Again, not in "all channels driven" or even 7 channels. Maybe 5 channels but can't say that is full bandwidth. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 They are class D3 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 hour ago, charles m said: Are you saying the Yamaha is not even close to a 140 Watts , I believe the pioneer elite 801 is ! Here is the deal. Even though the major players in the AVR game do tend to "manipulate" the power specs, all is not lost. The "all channels driven" test is an exact test signal sent to all channels simultaneously which in a real world HT scenario, you will not have every speaker receiving the exact signal all the time and most likely very little of the time. You may have at any given time 60% going to center channel while the left rear channel receives 5% and the right front speaker only 15% and the left front 20%. Then 10 seconds later the power demands may be the exact opposite. Bill 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Ok I understand that , but there is 9 channels and they says it is 140 Watts per clannel I can see it would drop that low ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted January 21, 2018 Author Share Posted January 21, 2018 Class D3 is raw power isn’t it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, charles m said: Ok I understand that , but there is 9 channels and the it says 140 Watts per clannel I can see it would drop that low ? What that means is that all channels are capable of 140w/channel when any two are in stereo mode. Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willland Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 1 minute ago, charles m said: Class D3 is raw power isn’t it ? The SC-LX801 is the only amplifier in this test in which pulse amplifiers were used. That's why the power does not regret and can deal with 4-ohm impedance in 5-channel mode without any problems - because it is not exposed to too high temperature, which triggered the protection (which happens with competitors). At 8 Ω we have 2 x 153 W and almost twice as much, 2 x 280 W, at 4 Ω. In 5-channel mode, at 8 Ω, melts slightly (compared to dual-channel power) - up to 5 × 140 W; at 4 ohms more clearly - up to 5 x 179 W, but it is still a record result in this test. Actually not bad numbers at all but again can't say all these tests are full bandwidth(20Hz to 20kHz). Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles M Posted February 2, 2018 Author Share Posted February 2, 2018 Well I did a full turn around and said no to Pioneer, Onkyo , and even Anthem . I went back to Marantz and picked up the New Marantz 7012 ! What the hell I haven’t even takin it out of the box yet . I hope I made the right choice but I feel I did ...... well I do respect your opinions and yes please giv it to me lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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