Joe DiClemente Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Hello Are the sony ES receivers alot better than the sony DE series receivers. I have all sony. I'm looking to upgrade my STR-DE925. I've read alot of good things about the Denon 3802. How do you think the SONY STR-DA5ES compares to the DENON 3802. I have RF7's RC7 RS7's and a SVS CS-ULTRA, 1000 WATT SAMPSON AMP. Thanks Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladi Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 You can read my opinion in topic "Pictures of my Home Theater" in this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 My opinion is many people in the market for a HT receiver go with very conventional mass market brand names without giving some of the specialty manufactureres a listen. I eventually bought a demo set of Sherwood Newcastle separates, but made several evaluations. Specs were also looked at closely. Specs to look for: All Channels Driven....NOT...One Channel Driven 20 hz to 20,000 hz....NOT....1Khz(1,000hz) signal The total harmonic distortion or maximum power ratings are a marketing ploy if they are not listed at "all channels driven from 20 hz to 20Khz". You get a "polished" story of the products performance. Very soundly built products I have auditioned, that may not have all of the bells and whistles, but sound great are as follows: Outlaw Audio Rotel NAD Arcam Analog pass through is a great feature to look for in a design if you do serious music listening in addition to HT. Enjoy the evaluations. Happy Hunting! Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted October 11, 2002 Share Posted October 11, 2002 Years ago I owned and enjoyed Sony ES receivers. Generally speaking, nowadays I would not recommend Sony receivers at all. There are some nice receivers out there made by Sony, but right now as far as receivers go, I would buy a Denon 3803 and never look back. For the price that receiver is hard to beat. Otherwise, I'd look at spending $5000> for good separates. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skonopa Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 I have the Denon AVR3802 with my Ref 7 speakers. It is a very nice sounding with many great features, especially for a reciever in its price range. Some people complain about how complex it is to use. The manual can be somewhat confusing, especially if you are not accoustomed to very techinical manuals. In my case, some of the documentation I have to deal with at work makes the Denon user's guide look like a well written novel! If you can, it is definitly worth checking out. Caveat - Denon has just come out with the 3803. I don't know what new features are in the 3803 over the 3802, though. Like alot of things audio - your best bet is to try them out and see which one you like the best yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Flynn Posted October 12, 2002 Share Posted October 12, 2002 Please do not perceive me as a Denon basher. I own three components for other systems in the house. 1984 Integrated amp 1992 Receiver 1994 cassette deck Just want people to do nore research. Sorry about the messed up signature; cannot figure out how to edit or delete it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomer9911 Posted October 14, 2002 Share Posted October 14, 2002 Sony sucks...period You are paying for a Cadillac that has Lincoln Continental parts, and maybe old AMC Gremlin drive train status...... wouldn't you rather have a "true" ferrari.....Marantz..... Sony ES in 88+ was quality...now...HA.....IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdm56 Posted October 15, 2002 Share Posted October 15, 2002 ---------------- On 10/14/2002 10:37:39 PM boomer9911 wrote: Sony sucks...period You are paying for a Cadillac that has Lincoln Continental parts, and maybe old AMC Gremlin drive train status...... wouldn't you rather have a "true" ferrari.....Marantz..... Sony ES in 88+ was quality...now...HA.....IMO ---------------- Ah, boomer, methinks thou art unduly harsh on Mr. Sony's creations! Then again, the last Sony ES piece I bought was merely an ST-S550ES am/fm tuner, about five years ago (+/- 3yrs). True, even in my experience, some ES products are virtually indistinguishable from the regular line, BUT, there are some very high quality, high value products. Or at least there was when I got the bulk of my system ('91 thru '96). I absolutely swear by my little ES integrated. Even when driving k-horns, it is very satisfactory. No grungy hardness here! That being said, I will probably leave the Sony camp myself, come next upgrade time. Front runners right now are Marantz or Pioneer Elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasN00b Posted October 15, 2002 Share Posted October 15, 2002 i strongly reccomend the Marantz line of products, i use a SR4200 myself, its a great reciever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2K Posted October 15, 2002 Share Posted October 15, 2002 Which Sony products did you have that gave you such poor service boomer? I've owned several Sony ES receivers and some were/are great products, some weren't. Guess it's sorta which way the historical wind blows. Kinda like Marantz. The most recent receiver(333ES) cost $550 at the local Tweeter. It is a very good receiver for that price and is used with Def Tech speakers. The Denon 38xx is much better for a coupla hundred more $ though. As always, anything I say is my opinion. Keith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tboo Posted October 15, 2002 Share Posted October 15, 2002 Joe, the DA5ES is a very nice reciever & is extremely tweakable. It also puts out its rated output. Check out Hometheater Mag's Aug 2002 issue. They do a review of the DA3ES, which is the little brother of the DA5ES, and it tested pretty well. Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocksnap Posted October 15, 2002 Share Posted October 15, 2002 You can do better than the Sony. My local high end shop LOVES the current Pioneer Elite line -- for the money. Great components, value for the money. This guy has been aound audio/video in a serious way his whole life. Designing hardware, speakers, installation -- you name it. He also recommends Rotel over Denon and Onkyo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 there are/were a couple of strda-777ES receivers for sale at this site:http//pub7.ezboard.com/baussiedvdandhtforum i love this receiver and wouldn't sell it for the full retail price of $1500!! you can read some info about this receiver and others at this site. THIS ES receiver is one of the best receivers EVER made by ANYBODY. avman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladi Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 avman, How/where did you get the software update for the receiver? I have Sony STR-DA5ES and am wondering if there is un update to its software, since it is last year model. Thanks, Vladi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STL Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 ---------------- On 10/16/2002 11:55:43 AM avman wrote: sony strda-777ES receiver upgraded to v.2.02 including virtual matrix 6.1 ---------------- I would also like to know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 this receiver along with the tae-9000es pre-amp are the only two sony pieces that have an rs232 port for upgrade i got the download for free from the website i listed earlier (ezboard). it added 6.1 decoding capability, as well as addressing some technical issues of the receiver's performance and options. avman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vladi Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 avman, STR-DA5ES has the port for upgrade too. I will call Sony and see what they say. Vladi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tboo Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 I dont think the da5es needs an upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halder35 Posted October 16, 2002 Share Posted October 16, 2002 I too have the STR-DA777ES and love it. Great bass management, excellent build quality and it makes a great pre/pro. I currently use it as a pre/pro for my 2205AT and the sound is GREAT. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avman Posted October 17, 2002 Share Posted October 17, 2002 hey mike!things getting a little s-l-o-w on our part of that site i've been poundin' away at the keys on avsforum. good to hear from ya! avman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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